RE: protecting streaming mp3 files with

  • From: "Andy B" <a_borka@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 20:00:38 -0400

How is protecting audio files by making people listen to them and not being
able to download them an accessibility issue? If you can stay away from the
flash idea then I cant see how it would be inaccessible. Inconvenient maybe,
but not inaccessible. In this case, it just isn't physically possible to let
people download the songs and use them at will (their will), which in lots
of cases isn't the will of the author. Anyways, the wills of other people
and what they try to do with streaming/downloaded media isn't the subject of
the list (unless its accessibility of course). The people aren't trying to
be inaccessible or be technically overkill on the law, but it is what they
are asking for...

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Octavian Rasnita
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 4:34 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: protecting streaming mp3 files with

I think this has no copyright relations. Copyright is something enforced by 
law while this type of protection is a technical protection.

The persons that need to use this type of protection usually care more about

money than about accessibility for the blind or about usability and their 
first goal is to force the listeners visit their site and watch their 
advertising and not to make the sound as friendly and easy to listen as 

They are not bad. They are just trying to earn money like everybody else.

If a sound is protected by copyright only, and let's say that certain sound 
is free to listen just once then it requires payment, then that sound can be

put as a simple free file anywhere on the web. If the visitors will respect 
the law, then they will download the file, listen it with Winamp or 
something else, then they would delete it if they don't want to pay. If the
visitors don't respect the law, it is not nice to skip the law and 
make your own police, a technical police in this case, but... it works this 
way, so nobody cares about those who have accessibility problems.

Or by the way, because I might not know too much about those web-based media

players, is there such a web based media player that can allow a blind 
person using Jaws to fast forward or rewind, or stop, pause and restart the 
sound again?


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 9:17 PM
Subject: RE: protecting streaming mp3 files with

> Hi,
> There could be a copyright issue with this.
> Jim
> James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc., 
> james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810
> "Never doubt that a thoughtful group of committed citizens can change 
> the world.  Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret 
> Mead
>             "Graham Hardy"
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> Hi Andy - Why would you want to do this? From a usability point of 
> view,
> it
> isn't always pleasant to have to sit in front of a computer to listen to
> files; I would much prefer to listen to them on another device. Indeed, I
> find that I almost never make use of streams that cannot be downloaded, so
> it is likely to repel some of your visitors. Of course, it depends on the
> actual content: for instance, books must never be streamed (what if you
> wanted to stop halfway and then resume a few days later?), whereas music
> seems more workable this way, as does live content. -Graham.
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andy B
> Sent: October 30, 2007 11:07 AM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: protecting streaming mp3 files with
> Hi...
> I have to stream mp3 files from an 2.0 website. I am trying to 
> figure out how you can let any visiter to the site play them but not 
> download them. Most of the examples out there show how in flash, but 
> is there another way?
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