Re: protecting streaming mp3 files with asp.net?

  • From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:17:10 +0200

Yes the files can be cut using a sound-editing program like Sound Forge, or others that could be easier to use just for cutting the file in 2 parts.


There is a program named mp3 splitter or something like that.

Who will like the first half of the song will probably like the other part.

Octavian

----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy B" <a_borka@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 1:18 PM
Subject: RE: protecting streaming mp3 files with asp.net?


Then is there a way to half cut or 30 second demo the files?



-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Octavian Rasnita
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 3:14 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: protecting streaming mp3 files with asp.net?


A streaming media can be inaccessible or with a low usability (better said)
because the blind users won't be able to set the volume up or down while
they are listening, they won't be able to fast forward or rewind the sound,
or pause, then later jump where they left.

Octavian

----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy B" <a_borka@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 2:00 AM
Subject: RE: protecting streaming mp3 files with asp.net?


How is protecting audio files by making people listen to them and not being
able to download them an accessibility issue? If you can stay away from the
flash idea then I cant see how it would be inaccessible. Inconvenient maybe,
but not inaccessible. In this case, it just isn't physically possible to let
people download the songs and use them at will (their will), which in lots
of cases isn't the will of the author. Anyways, the wills of other people
and what they try to do with streaming/downloaded media isn't the subject of
the list (unless its accessibility of course). The people aren't trying to
be inaccessible or be technically overkill on the law, but it is what they
are asking for...



-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Octavian Rasnita
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 4:34 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: protecting streaming mp3 files with asp.net?


I think this has no copyright relations. Copyright is something enforced by
law while this type of protection is a technical protection.

The persons that need to use this type of protection usually care more about

money than about accessibility for the blind or about usability and their
first goal is to force the listeners visit their site and watch their
advertising and not to make the sound as friendly and easy to listen as
possible.

They are not bad. They are just trying to earn money like everybody else.

If a sound is protected by copyright only, and let's say that certain sound
is free to listen just once then it requires payment, then that sound can be

put as a simple free file anywhere on the web. If the visitors will respect
the law, then they will download the file, listen it with Winamp or
something else, then they would delete it if they don't want to pay. If the
visitors don't respect the law, it is not nice to skip the law and make your
own police, a technical police in this case, but... it works this way, so
nobody cares about those who have accessibility problems.

Or by the way, because I might not know too much about those web-based media

players, is there such a web based media player that can allow a blind
person using Jaws to fast forward or rewind, or stop, pause and restart the
sound again?

Octavian

----- Original Message ----- From: <james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 9:17 PM
Subject: RE: protecting streaming mp3 files with asp.net?


Hi,
There could be a copyright issue with this.

Jim

James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc.,
james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810

"Never doubt that a thoughtful group of committed citizens can change
the world.  Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret
Mead




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Hi Andy - Why would you want to do this? From a usability point of
view, it
isn't always pleasant to have to sit in front of a computer to listen to
files; I would much prefer to listen to them on another device. Indeed, I
find that I almost never make use of streams that cannot be downloaded, so
it is likely to repel some of your visitors. Of course, it depends on the
actual content: for instance, books must never be streamed (what if you
wanted to stop halfway and then resume a few days later?), whereas music
seems more workable this way, as does live content. -Graham.

From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andy B
Sent: October 30, 2007 11:07 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: protecting streaming mp3 files with asp.net?

Hi...

I have to stream mp3 files from an asp.net 2.0 website. I am trying to
figure out how you can let any visiter to the site play them but not
download them. Most of the examples out there show how in flash, but
is there another way?



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