Re: android app development

  • From: Jared Wright <wright.jaredm@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 17:05:55 -0500

So if a blind someone was going to dive into Android, what would you recommend for the hardware? I was pretty set on the Droid 2, but this is with no first hand experience to work on. The Nexus S is promising because it'll always have the most updated Android and has no crapware from HTC or Samsung or whoever, but there's no physical keyboard and seems to be fairly average in the more mainstream metrics. I'm not sold on T-Mobiel as a carrier given my present location anyway.

On 12/16/2010 3:39 PM, Ken Perry wrote:

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[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Littlefield,
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 2:33 PM
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Subject: Re: android app development

Hopefully some of this will get fixed. I know there has been talk about
it, but I don't know to much more than that. Thanks for the info though.
First off I use a lot of main stream apps from msn to a couple games.  The
fact is you have to use eyes free to get all the functionality for now but
you can still download apps and use them if they  use regular controls no
different than the IPhone and I have both.  I will say the web browser is
better on the IPhone for now and so is email but at least you can use them
with the ideal plug in.  You have one of the worst phones..  I had a G1 and
now a G2 and its much better.

On 12/16/2010 12:10 PM, Alex Midence wrote:
I have a motorola charm with android loaded onto it.  It's just OK,
Ty.  Lots of potential but for now, it's just OK.  Sometimes, it is
downright frustrating, to be honest.  The Talk-back screen reader is
very primitive.  It's greatest feature is incorporation of tactile
feedback.  It's going in a completely new direction than others on
other platforms because of this "Haptic feedback."   apparently, some
work is being done to develop an app that produces haptic feedback in
the form of a scanned image or picture taken with the camera..
Someone mentioned using it to tactally explore a building or
something.  What it lacks and this is big, is an exploratory mode for
the touch screen.  You can not explore that thing without selecting
what you touch.  Only work around is the "eyes free shell".  If you
want to use something mainstream, you are out of luck.  Also, you
can't assign hotkeys for stuff with it either.  For instance, I can't
hang up my phone.  Others have to hang up on me.  Reason?  The hang up
button is an icon on the touch screen appearing in different spots for
every call.  You can use arrow keys to arrow to it but, they stop
working if the phone is up to your face and the screen reader voice
turns down to incoming call volume when you are on a call so, if you
pull the phone away from your face to use arrow keys, you can't hear
the screen reader land on the hang up button.  If you try to get the
thing just close enough, your cheek will touch an icon or something
and launch an application like the web browser or the weather widget
or phone book and you have to close that app to get back to the call
window to hang up all the while doing this little inch closer and inch
away dance with your hand set so you don't turn off the screen and
input from keyboard and still be able to hear what you are doing.  So,
I have a phone that has a gps, text messenger, camera, weather widget,
etc that I can't hang up and that is a pain to dial with.  Meaning,
it's primary function is difficult to make use of.

Observations from an Android end user who uses his phone every day.
Alex M

On 12/16/10, Littlefield, Tyler<tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>   wrote:
You've apparently not used android much. I know people that use it for
quite a lot, and it does more than narrator does.
On 12/16/2010 11:38 AM, Alex Midence wrote:
So ironic.  Downright sad, if you ask me.

"In the house of the blacksmith, they use a wooden knife."--Old Latin
American saying.

"Mechanics' children have broken cars ..."  "... A doctor's family
never gets cured."--Old proverbs from elsewhere

Alex M

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[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 10:30 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: iOS development?
Android has the equivalent of Microsoft Narrator, whereas iOS has
JAWS, complete with wireless braille display support (which is quite
good, especially as it is the first braille support for iOS).
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