So if a blind someone was going to dive into Android, what would you recommend for the hardware? I was pretty set on the Droid 2, but this is with no first hand experience to work on. The Nexus S is promising because it'll always have the most updated Android and has no crapware from HTC or Samsung or whoever, but there's no physical keyboard and seems to be fairly average in the more mainstream metrics. I'm not sold on T-Mobiel as a carrier given my present location anyway.
On 12/16/2010 3:39 PM, Ken Perry wrote:
-----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Littlefield, Tyler Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 2:33 PM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: android app development Hopefully some of this will get fixed. I know there has been talk about it, but I don't know to much more than that. Thanks for the info though. First off I use a lot of main stream apps from msn to a couple games. The fact is you have to use eyes free to get all the functionality for now but you can still download apps and use them if they use regular controls no different than the IPhone and I have both. I will say the web browser is better on the IPhone for now and so is email but at least you can use them with the ideal plug in. You have one of the worst phones.. I had a G1 and now a G2 and its much better. Ken On 12/16/2010 12:10 PM, Alex Midence wrote:I have a motorola charm with android loaded onto it. It's just OK, Ty. Lots of potential but for now, it's just OK. Sometimes, it is downright frustrating, to be honest. The Talk-back screen reader is very primitive. It's greatest feature is incorporation of tactile feedback. It's going in a completely new direction than others on other platforms because of this "Haptic feedback." apparently, some work is being done to develop an app that produces haptic feedback in the form of a scanned image or picture taken with the camera.. Someone mentioned using it to tactally explore a building or something. What it lacks and this is big, is an exploratory mode for the touch screen. You can not explore that thing without selecting what you touch. Only work around is the "eyes free shell". If you want to use something mainstream, you are out of luck. Also, you can't assign hotkeys for stuff with it either. For instance, I can't hang up my phone. Others have to hang up on me. Reason? The hang up button is an icon on the touch screen appearing in different spots for every call. You can use arrow keys to arrow to it but, they stop working if the phone is up to your face and the screen reader voice turns down to incoming call volume when you are on a call so, if you pull the phone away from your face to use arrow keys, you can't hear the screen reader land on the hang up button. If you try to get the thing just close enough, your cheek will touch an icon or something and launch an application like the web browser or the weather widget or phone book and you have to close that app to get back to the call window to hang up all the while doing this little inch closer and inch away dance with your hand set so you don't turn off the screen and input from keyboard and still be able to hear what you are doing. So, I have a phone that has a gps, text messenger, camera, weather widget, etc that I can't hang up and that is a pain to dial with. Meaning, it's primary function is difficult to make use of. Observations from an Android end user who uses his phone every day. Alex M On 12/16/10, Littlefield, Tyler<tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:You've apparently not used android much. I know people that use it for quite a lot, and it does more than narrator does. On 12/16/2010 11:38 AM, Alex Midence wrote:So ironic. Downright sad, if you ask me. "In the house of the blacksmith, they use a wooden knife."--Old Latin American saying. "Mechanics' children have broken cars ..." "... A doctor's family never gets cured."--Old proverbs from elsewhere Alex M -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alex Hall Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 10:30 AM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: iOS development? <snip> Android has the equivalent of Microsoft Narrator, whereas iOS has JAWS, complete with wireless braille display support (which is quite good, especially as it is the first braille support for iOS). __________ View the list's information and change your settings at http://www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind-- Thanks, Ty __________ View the list's information and change your settings at http://www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind__________ View the list's information and change your settings at http://www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind
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