Re: Window Eyes
- From: "Rick Harmon" <rickharmon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:44:31 -0400
I've heard rumors a couple of months ago that FS will support 64 bit in Jaws
10.0
Rick
----- Original Message -----
From: "inthaneelf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: Window Eyes
just a note on one point Laura, smile
as far as I have been told by folks, neither jaws or WE have announced to
anyone that I have talked to that they plan on supporting 64 bit OS's, why?
I have no bloody clue, it seems ridiculous to me, but that's the way I have
herd it, and it was intonated that Hal was going the same route, *shrug*
take care,
inthane
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From: "tribble" <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 11:54 AM
Subject: Re: Window Eyes
> Wow--what a thread --
> I own both jaws and an older version of WE, and I tend to side a little
> with
> Teddy, while understanding the argument that window eyes enthusiasts are
> taking. First, a blind person needs to learn so many sets of hot keys,
> windows/application/screen reader and whatever else -- that it is
> extremely
> annoying to be told to change to a new configuration just to do basic
> operations with a screen reader. And second, someone mentioned something
> about using a mouse cursor and text cursor independently in window eyes --
> but how is this different from what jaws does? In fact, jaws has 3 (or
> more?) cursors that can be used in scripting to jump around to wherever
> the
> user wants, or route to wherever, so could someone more familiar with both
> jaws and window eyes explain what the differences are in cursor handling?
> I'm not a proficient window eyes user and would like to know. Or maybe I
> should go vista and download nvda or SAToGo...
> And speaking of vista, jaws currently doesn't work on the 64 bit
> version --
> does window eyes?
> --le
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris Hofstader" <chris.hofstader@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 6:40 AM
> Subject: RE: Window Eyes
>
>
> The WE JAWS layout didn't "anger" me, I just found it annoying. Office
> 2007
> claims a lot of backward compatibility for keystrokes with Office 2003 and
> before. I find this really annoying too as partial compatibility is more
> confusing than no intentional compatibility at all.
>
> I also find that superfluous incompatibility for incompatibility sake is
> really annoying. After we put Quick Keys into JAWS, GW came out with a
> similar feature but rather than using us as a model, picked a different
> set
> of keystrokes which did little more than confuse people who need to use
> both.
>
> I don't know, I've never been a UI guy so I'm probably full of poop on
> this
> subject.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jared Wright
> Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 10:34 PM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Window Eyes
>
> Octavian Rasnita wrote:
> "it could be made to work like Jaws..."
> As a Window Eyes user of many years who is also competent if not
> amazingly proficient with JFW, working like JAWS is the last thing I
> want Window Eyes to do. Which is exactly the point. There can be plenty
> of arguments made about the philosophies behind the different UI's that
> JFW and Window Eyes employ, but the truth is that you couldn't use
> Window Eyes wanting it to be JFW more than you could use JFW wanting it
> to be Window Eyes. This is why I frowned on the JFW keyboard layout
> option. ON the one hand, I totally value the ease of transition for JFW
> users not familiar with Window Eyes. ON the other, you really can't slap
> the JFW layout onto the guts of Window Eyes no matter what you do
> because of their fundamental differences. So the JFW layout only ends up
> angering people like Teddy because it really isn't a JFW layout in the
> sense that they want it to be.
>
> Jared
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