[program-l] Re: VB: newbie needs guidance
- From: "Will Pearson" <will-pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 15:42:21 +0100
MessageHi Che,
Thanks for the offer, and I'm glad I'm of use. However it's not necessary, I'm
happy to offer advice for free, as I like to see people able to use, and get
the most out of, software. I'm a strong believer in the fact that people use
computers to perform tasks, therefore using a computer shouldn't be a task in
itself, and anything I can do to ease the burden of computer use I'm more than
willing to do.
Will
----- Original Message -----
From: Che
To: program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 10:52 PM
Subject: [program-l] Re: VB: newbie needs guidance
Ok my man, got it done, and I'm now going through the first of the videos
available for beginners at the MSDN site.
Thanks so much for your help. Tell me what your favorite charity is and
I'm sending twenty dollars to them as payment.
You can email me privately with this if you wish at che@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Really appreciate it,
Che
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----- Original Message -----
From: Will Pearson
To: program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 4:30 PM
Subject: [program-l] Re: VB: newbie needs guidance
Hi,
It's probably best to check c:\documents and settings\all users\application
data\freedom scientific\jaws\6.20\settings\enu for any msenv.* files. You can
do this using the search option from XP's start menu. If you find anything,
then you need to get rid of them, as they're for Visual Studio 2003.
To reclass the edit control:
1. Open Visual Basic Express
2. Either open an existing project (file > open > project) or create a new
one (file > new > project).
3. Once you've loaded the project, bring up the solution explorer (ctrl +
alt + l), cursor down to form1.vb and press enter
4. Select view > code, and this should bring up the code editor
5. Press insert + 7 on the numeric line above the alpha keys
6. Press OK to the dialog telling you that you are about to create a new
JAWS configuration file
7. Press tab, and select multi line edit from the listbox
8. Press OK, and you should have reclassed the editor control.
This won't be necessary once Travis and myself have finished the scripts.
The steps above force JAWS to use it's off screen model in the code editor, as
even though the code editor has MSAA to provide accessibility, some bugs in
JAWS mean that the default MSAA implementation in JAWS doesn't work with that
in the code editor. It's also worth pointing out that the first menu item in
each menu won't be spoken by JAWS, which again is a bug in JAWS that Freedom
Scientific know about but haven't fixed yet.
Will
----- Original Message -----
From: Che
To: program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 10:17 PM
Subject: [program-l] Re: VB: newbie needs guidance
Whoa, thanks for letting me know about the jaws stuf, I had no idea. I
have backed up and removed the only msenv. file found in enu, but I have no
idea how to change the control environment. If there is a page out there that
lays out the general idea, I'd be happy to learn how to do it so you wouldn't
have to type it up here.
Otherwise, I am using jfw 6.2 and WinXp Pro.
Thanks again.
Che
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----- Original Message -----
From: Will Pearson
To: program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 3:29 PM
Subject: [program-l] Re: VB: newbie needs guidance
Hi,
Whilst these aren't specifically aimed at blind programmers they are
aimed at those picking up Visual Basic, and or, the .Net Framework for the
first time:
* Introducing Visual Basic 2005 ebook:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vbasic/whidbey/introto2005/
* Windows Forms webcast series:
http://www.microsoft.com/events/series/windowsforms.mspx
* Modern software development:
http://www.microsoft.com/events/series/modernsoftdev.mspx
note: there's a section entitled 'modern software development using
C#'. This is just an introduction to the .Net Framework and doesn't really
favour one language over the other in it's explanation of the concepts. It's a
webcast series I'd highly recommend to anyone picking up the .Net Framework for
the first time.
There's a couple of things you'll need to do in order to use your copy
of vbasic express. Firstly, you'll need to register it using the help >
activate/register product menu option. Secondly, you'll need to delete all the
JAWS customisations for earlier versions of Visual Studio from within the JAWS
settings folder, these files are named msenv.*. After you've done this you'll
need to either restart JAWS or your system, and then reclass the Visual Studio
editor control to a multi line edit control using the JAWS control
reclassification dialog. If you need any help in doing this, then just ask and
tell me what version of JAWS you are using.
Will
----- Original Message -----
From: Che
To: program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 9:08 PM
Subject: [program-l] Re: VB: newbie needs guidance
Ok gang, I have downloaded and installed vb Studio 2005 Express,
and I've found tons of tutorials and examples out there. Do any of you have
reccomends on sites with tutorials and advice for the beginning programmer,
especially the beginning blind programmer?
Thanks much.
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