boy - it sure sounds like that messenger program running in the background - someone sent in a url the other day - I think this is it: http://www.icpug.org.uk/national/features/030429fe.htm I'll look to see if i can find any information about it being on other systems besides winXP - Did you say you had a firewall ? That could help also - why don't you try the google toolbar - other pop up killer's have been recommended, but this one seems to work pretty well. scroll down to tools - I think you have to activate it. And you don't have to set it to 'phone home' in order for it to work. http://www.google.com/options/ but if spybot is coming up empty - this is a toughy!! crisS ----- Original Message ----- From: sylviavandewall To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 4:55 PM Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: problem Ok Cris, I'll run panda online and if you have an adress of a pop up = stopper for me I'll download that also. Today I also downloaded the newest update from Spybot and run that but = it did not change the pop up ads coming. I never had that before and = also did never have had my icons changing just like that. I know when I = visit a website I get pop ups but this happens when I'm not visiting = websites. Even when I'm playing a card game the ads pop up. sylvia. make sure that you update your spybot search & Destroy - they just had = an update a day or so ago. and run it again.=20 You ran housecall... try running panda online. It sometimes finds things that housecall = doesn't.=20 http://www.pandasoftware.com/ a lot of web pages now create pop ups, so just surfing, will create pop = ups. You don't necessarily need to have anything on your computer that = is creating them - It won't hurt to put a pop up stopper on.=20 Cris Thanks for your help Cris but I don't have Messenger service on my =3D computer and I wish it was as easy as that but this has nothing to do = =3D with Microsoft.=3D20 I looked in my control panel but in WindowsME there is nothing with =3D Administrative Tools. This looks more like there is a virus inside my computer, no use to use = =3D a pop-up killer now because it has already put itself in my computer. They are pop-ups with ads about Viagra and how much in danger I am. sylvia. To unsub or change your email settings: //www.freelists.org/webpage/pctechtalk To access our Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PCTechTalk/messages/ //www.freelists.org/archives/pctechtalk/ For more info: //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/list?list_id=pctechtalk To unsub or change your email settings: //www.freelists.org/webpage/pctechtalk To access our Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PCTechTalk/messages/ //www.freelists.org/archives/pctechtalk/ For more info: //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/list?list_id=pctechtalk