oh my lord! I got tired just reading about what I am going to have to put in that case! So let's see if the laptop weighs 9 pounds with the battery then I need to figure about 10 more for equipment? Whew I wonder if this is such a good idea - but I do still need/want one for when I can't sit at my desktop computer - I've had 2 back surgeries and I am counting on being able to be in a comfortable position with the laptop. With the wireless mouse, you would have to have the laptop sitting on something right? otherwise how would you be able to work the mouse. I did figure I would need a carrying case and would not have realized the size would effect the price of the case. After everything you mentioned, as far as the refurbished laptop you got, were you happy with that? I hesitate to go refurbished but probably if bought from a reputable place with at least some sort of limited warranty it might be okay. This is good info though and I do appreciate all the food for thought! Now I think I need to go take some Rolaids :-( Dolores ----- Original Message ----- From: "BashfulBob" <BashfulBob@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 6:44 PM Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: general advice on a laptop HI I bought a refurbished Sony Vaio laptop, larger than normal screen, about a year ago. Let me tell you what I ran into and that maybe you should consider. It has a 40 Meg HD. I would like it to be larger now. But that is because of school. I bought mine on the net from UBID. I bid on 12 different ones and all came in within a $100 of each other. So I think UBID was doing some bidding on them.It came with XP Home. I go to school and figured I could update with the full version of XP Pro I get from school for 10 bucks. they said no cause there was something in the bios that checked what OS you were loading and if it wasn't from there disks it would not allow it to be installed. So I suggest no matter what one you get make sure that the OS can be updated or another one can be installed. If you are going to travel anywhere with it, that means a case. I found real quick when I went looking for cases that the larger size laptop cut my selection of cases down buy about 80%. Also get a case that has protection around the laptop, for instances: air padding. This helps to prevent damage to the HD if the laptop is dropped, etc. Paying a couple of extra bucks here is a lot cheaper than replace HD's. Also you will want a case that will hold all the accessories you will end up getting for it. Compartments for them is real desirable. I bought a USB wireless optical mouse for mine and it cost me $50 bucks. It was the best decision I could have made. The problem here is that I have gone through 2 of their little wire extension cables. The wire inside seems to get broke just by removing it and putting it away in the case. I have to plug the transmitter/receiver directly into the USB port now. It is good for a distance of about 3 feet from the laptop. This too will have to go into the case. The mouse eats up AA batteries pretty quick (I could have got a non optical that took AAA batteries, I am glad I didn't). I have, had for 15 years, alkaline rechargeable (But they do not make these kind any more) and I use them. It has saved me a small fortune in the cost of batteries. I carry 4 batteries around. The reason I prefer the wireless mouse is the touch pad is very very sensitive and is a real pain to use as far as I am concerned. I bought a UPC (small) surge protector for the laptop. I consider that a good investment. Again this will have to go into the case. I bought a 750 meg zip drive because of school and home. I would suggest, if you need something like that, that you consider getting one of those USB memory that plug directly into the USB port. I wished they were out when I got the zip drive, I would have gone that route. Again, I have to put this (750 zip drive) into the case. Keep in mind that I have two cords for it and a little converter is in one of the cords and it must plug into a wall outlet or extension cord. The Disks have to go into the case too. Speaking of USB ports, my laptop has 3 USB ports. When I plug all the stuff I got into them, 3 is JUST enough. None to spare. SO I suggest you get one with as many USB ports as possible. Depending on how and what you are going to use it for, I suggest 3 be the minimum. Again depending on what you are going to use it for, you may want an extra battery. On mine, it seems that the battery is the most expensive one they make. Last I checked it was $250. The say the battery will last 4 hours, but I only give it two, depending on what you are doing and what accessories you are using. So When I am at school I make sure I sit next to a wall outlet. If you get an extra battery, that too will have to go into the case. Hope by now you are getting the idea about picking out a case. I bought a little light with a flexible shaft that plugs into one of the USB ports. I don't use it much but when I do it is a life saver. It plugs into the USB port comes up the back and bends over the top of the case. The draw back with this one is that it has only one little light and does not really light up the whole keyboard adequately. This too has to go into the case. :-) It has DVD RW drive and a floppy drive. Again depending on your use, the disks have to go into the case too. That brings up the area of having an extension cord with you and the case must have room for it also. So in conclusion, a too large of a case is a whole lot better than one that is too small. Hope this helps you in your decision making. 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