Hi Billy > I thank you all who have sent url's and programs for detecting Trojans, but > it's Trojan destroyer I need, all of these programs tell me what I already > know, that I have a trojan called etc and please run AVG to get rid of it. > > I went to the AVG site and it told me to close and disable "restore" feature > in XP so I did and ran AVG, and it still can't get rid of this trojan. I'm > now ready with a 12 guage and am pointing it at the "c" drive, will this rid > me of this troublesome beast if I pull the trigger..........mind you I'm > open to any reasonable suggestions as to do it properly. Looks like you didn't read my directions or those on the sites i sent very carefully. There were even directions for removing any trojan manually. In addition, i also spent a lot of time researching before i sent you links with the best trojan destroyer program, which is also free for 30 days. All you probably have to do is the first thing i said, i.e. restart your computer in safe mode before running AVG. They say this on the AVG page too; the other advice there about disabling System Restore is not enough and perhaps not even necessary: www.grisoft.com/faq/us_faqtext.php?id=224&sid=25 If that doesn't work, get this http://tds.diamondcs.com.au/index.php?page=download Please do these things in this order and let me know what happens. If all else fails, here are the manual removal instructions for any trojan: www.nohack.net/detection.htm I've never actually removed a trojan with anything except AVG. Are you saying the online scanners tell you there is a trojan but can't do anything about it?! Ek -------list-services-below----------- Regards, John Durham (list moderator) <http://modecideas.com/contact.html?sig> Freelists login at //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/lsg2.cgi List archives at //www.freelists.org/archives/pchelpers PC-HELPERS list subscribe/unsub at http://modecideas.com/discuss.htm?sig Latest news live feeds at http://modecideas.com/indexhomenews.htm?sig Good advice is like good paint- it only works if applied.