> The annoying thig is though, I've managed to get rid of this trojan, but I > don't know what I did to get rid of it. Also, I couldn't get AVG to run in > safe mode both times I tried it???? > > Anyway, it's gone now but I wish I knew what I did. You followed Ed's and my directions, at least part of the way, some of the time, and often enough to get lucky... (-: Seriously, you must remember what you did and in what order?! Then i can tell you what happened. Right now i'm guessing AVG killed the trojan the very first time it found it, and then you eventually managed to get rid of the copy hiding out in the System Restore file, which antivirus programs can't get at (as AVG told you). What do you mean you couldn't run AVG in safe mode? Were you able to start the computer in safe mode? > Yes Ekhart, did everything it told me, TDS was installed manually. I'm sure you installed TDS manually, but how about the update file (radius.td3); did you download that and put it in the TDS folder? Did you click on TDS's Scan Control and choose the correct scan target (all hard drives)? -------list-services-below----------- Regards, John Durham (list moderator) <http://modecideas.com/contact.html?sig> Freelists login at //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/lsg2.cgi List archives at //www.freelists.org/archives/pchelpers PC-HELPERS list subscribe/unsub at http://modecideas.com/discuss.htm?sig Latest news live feeds at http://modecideas.com/indexhomenews.htm?sig Good advice is like good paint- it only works if applied.