As I'm developer and not DBA, I can also follow previous argument of SQL*Plus which is everywhere. Yes mostly now I'm using PL/SQL Developer in my organization, but I'm trying not to forget SQL*Plus because: 1) There were cases when I had to be on a client's site without PL/SQL Developer, Toad or whatever else GUI tool. Rare cases but at least a few. For example recently our consultant DBA installed Oracle for a client, I could login through VPN, Putty or whatever these tools where :) and access next production Oracle only via SQL*Plus. 2) all installations for our developed App Oracle code are as SQL*Plus scripts. Easy configurable, runs on Linux, AIX, Windows whatver OS wher Oracle server for our apps are installed. 3) thanks to SQL*Plus I know at least basic syntax for create table, constraint, index (and probably something more) as well as alter, drop etc. So in case of emergency I don't need to look in docs for basic things. 4) SQL*Plus scripts and their results are very cool for demonstrations - easy to show both used statements and results of the statement. Gints Plivna http://www.gplivna.eu 2010/12/23 Aragon, Gabriel (GE, Corporate, consultant) <gabriel.aragon@xxxxxx>: > Hi list, > > I have been asked to give a sqlplus training to some junior and junior+ > DBA's, since Im expecting the first question to be: > > "I know how to run most common DML/DDL/etc commands so, why do I need to > take a sqlplus training to format output or generate reports when there is a > lot of tools which can help me to access database w/o using manual input?" > > and I have thought some answers like: > > 1. Im sure nobody is exploding all features available in SQLPLUS. > 2. What would you do if you have to work in a company which is not able to > pay for nice tools? > 3. Knowledge on SQLPLUS would help you to get a better understanding of > oracle database. > > and so on.. > > but I would like to hear some feedback from you guys, why a sqlplus training > is important? > > TIA > Gabriel > > > -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l