Re: OEMGC and Standard Edition?
- From: Niall Litchfield <niall.litchfield@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: tim@xxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 12:07:46 +0100
Tim,
Yes it can be managed without all the extra packs. However as you note large
amounts of functionality are not legally available to you (even though of
course some of them are already installed and operating on your SE target -
you just can't look at the data).
In later versions of GC though (certainly 10.2.0.4 and 5) however disabling
Grid from using the packs disables huge swathes of functionality and makes
the product (in my view) pretty much useless. The other huge irritant to me
is that Oracle draws an (in my view) artificial distinction between an alert
and a notification. Alerts in GC parlance don't include telling anybody
about anything. So although you can get alerts about - for example full
tablespaces - then you can't in the out of the box product be emailed about
them without incurring a license liability. In essence it appears to me that
GC/database control with at least the diags pack licensed is a worthy
investment, but without it is a waste of time and energy.
This isn't how it should be :)
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 11:05 PM, Tim Gorman <tim@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Ladies and Gents,
>
> We're interested in finding out if we can use Standard Edition as opposed
> to Enterprise Edition. Just testing the water...
>
> Looking at Oracle Support note #465460.1 (entitled "*Differences between
> Enterprise, Standard, and Personal Editions on 11.1*"), it seems that none
> of the OEM "management packs" can be installed on Standard Edition (SE)...
>
> *Manageability*
> *SE1
> * *SE
> * *EE
> * *Notes
> *
>
> Oracle Change Management Pack
>
> N
>
> N
>
> Y
>
> Extra cost option
>
> Oracle Configuration Management Pack
>
> N
>
> N
>
> Y
>
> Extra cost option
>
> Oracle Diagnostic Pack
>
> N
>
> N
>
> Y
>
> Extra cost option
>
> Oracle Tuning Pack
>
> N
>
> N
>
> Y
>
> Extra cost option, also requires the Diagnostic Pack
>
> Oracle Provisioning Pack
>
> N
>
> N
>
> Y
>
> Extra cost option
>
> Duplexed backup sets
>
> N
>
> N
>
> Y
>
> Database Resource Manager
>
> N
>
> N
>
> Y
>
>
> This makes sense, since so many of the things that these "management packs"
> rely upon are part of Enterprise Edition (EE). C'est la vie...
>
> But my big question is: can a Standard Edition database be managed with
> OEM Grid Control or not? Granted, without all these nice packs. What is
> your experience?
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
> Tim Gorman
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