>I suspect that by now, most of them have figured it out. It might seem like good marketing hype to advertise such a thing as digital cable-ready, but when the consumer finds out that's not true, he's likely to return it and get his money back. True. However I don't see people doing that on many of the HDTV/DTV tuner card forums. I do see lots of people saying 'it should be in the clear', 'complain to <your provider>' and 'you should get the locals unencrypted'. I also see a lot of 'it's the broadcaster's fault' type rants and blame-games. I can't tell if the people doing this have a vested interest with the company selling the card, but I will say that a lot of them are full of it yet held in high esteem. To me that's the blind misleading the blind. >We went through this years ago with so-called "VSB/QAM" demod chips. Maybe at the time, some of those chipmakers just didn't know. Or maybe they figured the small incremental cost to add QAM to an 8-VSB was worthwhile to somebody somewhere. That one always puzzled me -- if you can't use the QAM feature, how can it have any value? Either leave it out, or add the out-of-band demod and CableCard interface so that it truly is digital cable-ready. Even if there somehow was a card with a cablecard interface, it still wouldn't fly - there is no secure video path to the display. Ofcourse, solutions like our SVP processor address this, but I can't see a consumer going out and buying a new video card *and* a tuner card at the same time, let alone the fact that such a solution will never happen because the user has too much control over the system (well, perhaps under palladium, or via a solution that only works on PC devices and isn't used for broadcast (pirates and hackers don't need a testbed)). The only other option is loop-through, but that means analog VGA, and we can't have that now can we (besides the fact that displays are getting higher in resolution and for all intent purposes loop-through VGA kind of.. well.. sucks). Cheers Kon ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.