Tom Barry wrote: > So, are we all waiting for the 5'th generation Zenith boxes > instead of the 4'th gen Linx boxes now? No, why should we? The 5th gen Zenith appear to have a somewhat wider range of echo tolerance possibly, but other than that, they seem to be similar in performance to the Linx. But I've not seen nearly as detailed test results for the Zenith receivers. The Brazil E results are virtually identical. Echo tolerance might be +/- 50 usec vs +/- 38 usec, but even that apparent difference is questionable, because the tolerance varies according to echo strength. So you need more info to make a valid comparison. Most likely, each one has its strengths in slightly different conditions. The Linx gets oustanding results in some other echo profiles, such as Brazil C and D, where it requires only 13.3 and 12.6 dB of C/N with reacquisition (clearly using echo energy contructively). I don't have the Zenith figures for comparison. Brazil C and D are less severe than Brazil E, in that the second strongest signal path is attenuated by 0.1 dB compared with the strongest path, and the other four echoes are even weaker. Where Brazil E has three equally strong signals, with 1 usec spacing between each one. Incidentally, the "generic" Rayleigh profile used in the ETSI EN 300 744 simulation to derive the performance of COFDM receivers is very clearly described in Annex B of the document. Hard to make a very exact comparison with the Brazil profiles, because the ensemble includes 20 total signal paths of varying strength vs just 6 in most of the Brazil profiles. But the important point is that the ETSI document assumes only two of those paths to be strong, and they are 0.065 dB different (10 * logbase10(0.407/0.401) =3D 0.065 dB). So this profile is perhaps more comparable to Brazil C or D than to Brazil E. Bert ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.