Definition of portable and mobile being...? William Smith wrote: >So far the only portable and mobile receiver (if you want to call them >that) are the Mini ITX PC systems we are building as datacast units with >BBTI cards. (The Tuner App will decode and display HD). They do run on >12V.. Batteries not included.. > > > >Manfredi, Albert E wrote: > > >>William Smith wrote: >> >> >> >> >>>IMHO The modulation standard is strangling the business >>>model. >>> >>>LG claims to have the secret to 8-VSB (they should they >>>own it) but refuses to make the solution available (except >>>to be waved around in Congressional Hearings). >>> >>> >>Actually, LG does build their good stuff into integrated TV sets, but >>only goes that far. So this is only useful to those who, so far, have >>been buying relatively expensive and large sets. It's of no use to those >>who already have TVs, even good ones. And it doesn't provide those >>all-important PVRs and DVDRs, either. So the good stuff is being kept in >>the closet. >> >>But it's real, and that's another one of my peeves. It's not cold >>fusion. I see this pretense that it doesn't exist as just another excuse >>for broadcasters to go blaming someone else for their own lack of >>involvement. >> >>Furthermore, there are other companies that provide good chipsets: >>Micronas, STMicroelectronics, ATI, and Samsung (that last one might not >>yet be at full production, who knows?). >> >>It is up to *broadcasters* and their NAB to inform themselves of these >>details, test them out, scream and shout if CE manufacturers aren't >>providing the goods, or if they see funny business is going on. Is >>someone getting paid off for keeping this stuff off the market? Or is it >>just bean counters that see "no demand"? If yes to either of these, then >>what makes you think a modulation change would change that? >> >> >> >> >>>LG committed to building the magic $50 decoders If Congress >>>would set a hard date.. The date has been set .. Where are >>>the units? Anyone else who grandstanded like that would be >>>held in contempt of Congress. >>> >>> >>I agree with you there, 100 percent. Where are they? And who should >>answer that question? Bureaucrats? In whose interest is it to get that >>stuff out there so DTT works well? >> >> >> >> >>>Fixed, mobile and portable are the future... fixed only is >>>dead.. >>> >>> >>Fixed exists and is used a lot. Far from "dead." Market saturation does >>not translate to "dead." Lack of media hype does not mean "dead." The >>media can only hype up what is brand new, and best of all, what they >>don't really understand. >> >>Portable sets, e.g. plug-in type portables, can be supported by good >>ATSC receivers as well as any DVB-T receiver. The power draw is an issue >>regarless of ATSC or DVB-T. Again, PC lap-top type of solutions >>(rechargeable ~2 hour battery) can certainly work in this type of device >>for the time being, until power reduction solutions make it to the CMOS >>market. >> >>As of today, in all countries with DTT, handheld TV, or rather the >>promise of that market, is going to be fed from specialized streams, >>over dedicated frequencies. That can be accomplished here as it can >>anywhere. >> >>As to vehicular mobility, again, that can be pushed here too. It can >>work, and more importantly, that's the only single scenario where a good >>ATSC solution has to be demoed. >> >> >> >> >>>Stations do not want to promote a system that doesn't support >>>reliable reception.. The first impression Joe Six Pack has of >>>DTV reception will be the one that sticks with him...not the >>>one after he fights the antenna for an hour... >>> >>> >>Absolutely. Which is why it is up to broadcasters, and no one else, to >>figure out where the logjam is. Pretending that the logjam is a >>modulation standard is a sure recipe for failure, IMO. >> >>Bert >> >> >>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: >> >>- Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at >>FreeLists.org >> >>- By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word >>unsubscribe in the subject line. >> >> >> >> >> > > > -- ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> Regards, Mark A. 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