Thanks. If the price difference is only a buck then I have to assume something else is at play here. Maybe Zenith doesn't want to make them because they just CAN'T. That is, maybe there is some other reason why the results seen at the Shubin test site (and related tests of that box) cannot be duplicated commercially. I still wonder if we were all tricked somehow, since nothing equivalent has ever been seen since. - Tom S J Birkill wrote: > Tom Barry wrote: > > >>But can anyone then say what is the price difference between a good and >>bad can-type tuner? Maybe we would rather buy the ones that work? > > > Commodity-type VHF/UHF DTV tuner can, 10dB max NF, single conversion using > (e.g.) Infineon TUA6034 MOPLL chip, including discrete production-aligned > tracking filter, 6MHz SAW filter and ADC-ready IF output, but not including > demod., about $3.50 volume price from European or Asian manufacturer. > > Alignment-free DTV tuner integrated on product main board, UK design as > used in various European STB/iDTVs/DVRs. Multi-carrier D/U ratio enhanced > for US OTA environment, NF 5dB max, otherwise as above, volume BoM cost > less than $4.50. > > Can only infer that the CE manufacturers (including LG) aren't interested > in making a product that works... > > SJB > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: > > - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at > FreeLists.org > > - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word > unsubscribe in the subject line. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.