On Sat, 05 Apr 2003 17:40:42 -0500, "Eric D." <hideme666@xxxxxxxxxxx> said: > I would not bother with a pre-G4 if you plan to upgrade it in future to a > G4!!! Newer G4s offer much more than the B&W and Yikes (1st generation) > G4s can. You need to get past the first generation of G4s to have Quartz > Extreme support (AGP, and I think the lowest that's supported is the NVidea 16 > MB...all 32 MB & up machines are supported). You cannot add a "supported" card > to a non-AGP tower and have Quartz Extreme use it! I've heard of ppl using pre-g3 macs with g3/g4 upgrade cards running OSX and using Quartz Extreme... particularly with the Radeon 7000 cards... and that's 33mhz pci bus... so I don't think an upgraded beige or BW G3 _can't_ use quartz extreme... I havent done it, but i think it is possible. _________________________________________________ For information concerning the MUGLO List just click on http://muglo.on.ca/pages/members.html#Joinmuglo Don't forget to periodically check our web site at: http://muglo.on.ca/