Thanks, david. Good to know about the correlation with having the phone locked, it seems like it would be easy to just unlock the phone first. Best, Donna > -----Original Message----- > From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:macvoiceover- > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Poehlman > Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 8:21 AM > To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: terminating calls on the iphone > > well, from what Josh says, a double tap should answer and end calls. > What I have found though is that if the phone is locked, this don't > work so good unless you have your headset on so you will either need > to unlock the phone and move it away from your face a bit or use your > headset. > > On Jun 29, 2009, at 7:38 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > > Actually, when I was in the Apple Store, I thought that typing was > much easier than I'd expected. Nah, the thing that worries me the > most is this issue of answering and ending calls, as I know I'll be > doing a lot of that over the weekend. > Cheers, > Donna > > -----Original Message----- > From: David Poehlman <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 6:48 AM > To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: terminating calls on the iphone > > Your biggest hurdle will be typing on that damnable keyboard although > it's probably about as easy as it can be under the circumstances. you > can use voice controll though which should simplify things a good deal. > > On Jun 28, 2009, at 11:16 PM, patrickneazer wrote: > > Hello Donna and all: > > Six brothers and sisters? The first thing you might need is more > minutes (wink). > > I am not an expert though if you are unsure about how this thing might > work and whether or not it is for you, see if you can lay your hands > on one if you have not already. Second, give a listen to Shane > Jackson's podcast number 3 ... if you have not done so already. It is > an excellent introduction and is enough both to get you started and > adventurous (smile). > > There are a few things to get used to. If you are used to typing on a > nokia or similar phone the virtual keyboard might be a little > disorienting at first. However, if you have a good working knowledge > of the typing keyboard (which I am guessing you do) then it grows on > you with time. In addition, learning how to do the "flick" sounds > weird though those sorts of gestures make the iphone both really cool > to use and easy. You may think you look really silly using the > gestures (I did) though they will become your bread and butter (smile). > > If you are reasonably good at navigating itunes, setting it up should > go smoothly. If you do get it, set it up before you leave so in case > something goes not according to plan you have time to reach the nice > people at AT&T ... and I do mean nice people. They were quite helpful > when I buzzed them with a few questions. > > I will stop writing now because I have gone on too long and others > will chime in with there thoughts ... > > Go for it ... you will enjoy it thoroughly. Just be careful ... loss > of sleep do to enjoyment may be the result of this purchase. > > Oh, and the fun thing about it, if you cannot get it all figured out > you can have the family pitch in on your vacation. With voiceover on, > they can see what you can see. The only difference, which you probably > know already, is that when voiceover is activated the gestures are > different. So, with someone watching over your shoulder and your > iphone grasp tightly in your hand you can pick up a few useful tricks. > > Do not bother to curve your enthusiasm (smile) > On Jun 28, 2009, at 10:39 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > > > All right, mr. Dive-in-and-take-the plunge! *smile* > > > > So, how much time do I need to get proficient on this thing. When > > we travel to visit the family, we end up making a *lot of calls. My > > husband has six brothers and sisters, and planning even the most > > insignifcant event seems to require at least 40 calls bakck and > > forth to different sibs. So, my concern is that I'll get down there > > and have to answer and make calls, and not have a clue how to do > > it. What do I need to know to be up and running when our car pulls > > out of the driveway in four days.? > > Cheers, > > Donna > > > > From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:macvoiceover- > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > ] On Behalf Of patrickneazer > > Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 9:30 PM > > To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: terminating calls on the iphone > > > > Hello Donna and all: > > > > Good heavens (smile). Why wait (wink). Just think how much fun you > > will have calling people from your Iphone over the holiday weekend. > > You can send your first text message telling people that you wish > > they were here and you can even take a snapshot of the > > surroundings ... camera works great. Captured my first picture and > > now that picture is the photo that pops up when they call. Not > > everyone will think that is useful or practical though I do (smile). > > The picture came out pretty well ... impress your friends. > > > > I am an NPR fan and my Niece already got her little hands around the > > Iphone (smile). I was close by and she could not do more damage to > > the phone than I could. Currently, I think she will enjoy the other > > phone better ... has Mobile TV on it and she is a fan of the Cartoon > > network (smile). > > > > OK, enough family history though I will finish by saying given that > > I can listen to tunes while on a call my aversion to headphones is > > giving way. This gadget just might cause changes in thinking (wink). > > > > Run out and get one today ... who knows ... you buying one might put > > Keith over the edge (smile). Keith, you are next (smile). > > On Jun 28, 2009, at 10:10 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > > > > > > Good morning, Patrick, > > > > Well, it's good to know I'm not the only one who doesn't like > > wearing headphones. And I have to say, if my poor brain can handle > > the multitasking, it'd be cool to listen to music while on a call. I > > think your messages have been successful, the urge to run out and > > try it is growing stronger by the moment. I imagine I'll have to > > succumb soon, but can't decide whether to do it now, and be learning > > to use it while on our 4th of July pilgrimage to visit the fam, or > > wait till after we get back. > > > > BTW, re your niece, don't know if you're an NPR fan, but they had an > > amusing segment on All Things Considered a few weeks back about > > people's kids, nieces etc getting hold of their electronic toys. One > > of the stories featured someone whose toddler niece did manage to > > get hold of the iphone. I wouldn't recommend it! *smile* > > Cheers, > > Donna > > > > From: patrickneazer <patrickneazer@xxxxxxx> > > Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 9:55 AM > > To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: terminating calls on the iphone > > > > Good morning Donna and all: > > > > Beware I also have an aversion to wearing headphones. Though I must > > confess I found myself on a call with the Ipod playing in the > > background. If the sound quality of the Iphone's ipod was not so > > good I might have turned it off. Instead, I found myself enjoying > > both the music and the call. Never thought it would happen though it > > might happen again (smile). > > > > Even if that does not appeal to you ... run out and try it. Once you > > pick it up it is contagious (wink). > > > > > > On Jun 28, 2009, at 9:44 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > > > > > > I guess I'm just going to have to try this out, it's really hard to > > picture! *smile* But, it's good to year yours and Cheryl's > > assurances that this can be done. I don't know why I have such an > > aversion to headphones, but I really dislike wearing them, unless > > I'm listening to music or something like that. And, we don't have a > > land line, so frequently I'll go running across the house to > > wherever I happened to have left my phone. It's nice to just be able > > to hit that left soft key and be on the call. > > > > So, thanks for the feeddback, I will keep my enthusiasm for getting > > an IPhone alive! :) > > Best, > > Donna > > > > From: patrickneazer <patrickneazer@xxxxxxx> > > Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 2:23 AM > > To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: terminating calls on the iphone > > > > Good morning Donna and all: > > > > Donna. You can relight your enthusiasm for getting an Iphone > > (smile). It is not a requirement to have a head set on to answer or > > hang up from calls. You can do both quite nicely without the > > headset. I had to get used to the reality that moving the Iphone > > toggles the speaker phone. It was not an annoyance just a little > > surprising at first (wink). My niece thought it was pretty cool > > (smile). Now to keep her from running off with it. Is there an app > > for that? > > > > > > On Jun 27, 2009, at 9:50 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > As one who doesn't yet have an iphone, the problem is this issue of > > requiring a headset. I don't *want to *have to wear a head set to > > use this phone. Apple really needs to address this. I was really > > hot about getting the iphone, now I'm pulling back. If I can't > > answer and end a call unless I'm wearing headphones, this isn't a > > phone I'm ever going to buy. > > Best, > > Donna > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:macvoiceover- > > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lodro Rigdzin > > Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 1:51 PM > > To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: terminating calls on the iphone > > > > The iphone headset that comes with the phone has a microphone afaik > > > > -original message- > > Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: terminating calls on the iphone > > From: "Marco" <news@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > Date: 27/06/2009 19:22 > > > > I thought that the 3GS came with a ear bud set with a mic on the > cord. > > My > > nokia phone has this on the ear buds and it works great for answering > > and > > ending calls as well as talking handsfree. > > > > Maybe it is under the accessories page that apple has under > > apple.com/accessibility. > > > > I've not checked out this sight yet but maybe it might have > > suggestions > > for > > accessibility devices that will make your IPhone experience even > > better. > > > > Marco > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > [mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cheryl Homiak > > Sent: June 27, 2009 8:42 AM > > To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: terminating calls on the iphone > > > > I don't want to put in those earbuds for every call or walk around > > with the earbuds on all the time in case somebody calls me. > > So if I can't hear voiceover say "answer" and "end call" > > I just double tap until it answers or hangs up. Usually, though not > > always, it will eventually hang up > > anyway. A couple of times I haven't managed to answer till the third > > or > > fourth ring but I haven't actually missed a call this way yet. What > we > > probably need is an independent way to turn up voiceover without > > having > > to > > get it to talk to turn it up. I wonder: if you had a real headset > with > > the > > microphone built on instead of just the earbuds, is there an auto- > > answer > > setting? 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