Hi Marcy, I would have been right there crying with you! *grin* This list has been a huge help. I knoe I've asked a lot of questions, and I sso appreciate everyone's help. I look forward to the day when I can give back to other newbies. Cheers, Donna -----Original Message----- From: Marcy Weinberg <rhymingmom1@xxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 5:25 PM To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: searching for text on a web page I'm with you here, Donna! If I didn't have the help and guidance I have had, I wouldn't be nearly where I am in terms of progress. And I'd have hated to see a grown woman cry, especially if it's me! Marcy On Jul 30, 2009, at 2:29 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: I have to say that's really hard to picture. You do seem to have the Mac in your bones. I can't imagine what it would be like to sort all this out without you and others on this list. I really do think I would have given up a week or so ago. *smile* Take care, Donna On Jul 31, 2009, at 11:04 AM, David Poehlman wrote: > oh, you should hve seen me before this list was borne. I struggled > just like everyone else new to the mac. > > On Jul 31, 2009, at 10:27 AM, Chris Hofstader wrote: > > Hi, > > Over the past decade or so I have been on a number of different > lists with Donna. She, like most of us did at some point (excepting > of course David and Lioncourt who have Macintosh accessibility in > their DNA <laugh>) will ask some newbie questions. Coming over from > JAWS or some other Windows SR or orca and GNU/Linux systems the > questions will certainly contain a bias as our expectations will be > preset by the learning we have already done in the past. > > Donna, on the other lists from where I've known her, has always > provided a lot of help to newbies once she has learned how to > approach a task. It is my not at all humble opinion that Donna is a > terrific asset to any online community that is interested in > technology and people with vision impairment. > > I think it would be a valuable exercise but also one that will take > a lot of time and effort to create a document with a name like, > "VoiceOver Eye for the JAWS Guy" or something similar that provides > basic tutorial information about VO but also provides a "this is how > you did it with JAWS but this is a Macintosh with VoiceOver and we > do things this way..." > > Maybe someone could even write a little program that just presents > a table with JAWS Way, VO Way as columns for major functions and a > detail button for functions with no direct analogues on the other > platform. > > Obviously, someone could add Window-Eyes, HAL, System Access and > orca but with a worldwide market-share of over 90%, JAWS is the most > likely screen reader one would be leaving to start using a Macintosh. > > Everything from how VO speaks the character at the insertion point > to table navigation is very different from the Windows and GNU > platforms. A little understanding and patience and we'll make a new > friend and add a terrific mind to our community. > > Peace, > cdh > > . > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 31, 2009, at 9:35 AM, brandon armstrong wrote: > >> donna I'm sorry but i am getting real tired of your pointless >> questions on this list. >> you are coming to the point where i don't want to be here anymore >> and i am on the virg of unsubscribing period. >> Please stop asking questions that relate to windows on the mac. >> thanks. >> Brandon >> On Jul 30, 2009, at 8:16 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Recently, when searching for text on a webpage using command-F, I >>> saw a button that said 2 results found, but I seemed to have no >>> way to actually see the results. 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