[macvoiceover] Re: searching for text on a web page

  • From: "ashley" <ash.cox@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:02:58 +0100

Yep, I totally agree with you. Personally, I used jaws before I got a Mac. And while I still use windows for most of my daily tasks, I find I'm starting to use the Mac more and it's much more enjoyable and simple.


None of this on the Mac:
"Microsoft windows dialog. Windows suffered a arer and needs to close. Harddrive formatting has been scheduled for next reboot. Send arer report button."
*smile*

ash
----- Original Message ----- From: "Marcy Weinberg" <rhymingmom1@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 5:37 PM
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: searching for text on a web page


Hi, Chris, Donna, and everyone,
I was one of those in the small minority who came to the mac from
window-eyes.  I have been able to divorce myself completely from that
connection of how I did something with window-eyes so ho do I do it on
the mac and with vo.  But everyone is different, and some actually
will learn better the new system while at first referring to the old
in their minds.  So, we need to be tolerant of everyone's learning
style.  Because, in the end, it doesn't matter how you get there, as
long as you arrive.  And the more help you can get along the way, the
luckier you are, that's for sure.  And I've been very fortunate in
that!  Just remember, be patient and tolerant of others, and most of
all, be helpful and informative!  Thanks from a fairly newbie!  Marcy
On Jul 31, 2009, at 10:27 AM, Chris Hofstader wrote:

Hi,

Over the past decade or so I have been on a number of different lists
with Donna.  She, like most of us did at some point (excepting of
course  David and Lioncourt who have Macintosh accessibility in their
DNA <laugh>) will ask some newbie questions.  Coming over from JAWS or
some other Windows SR  or orca and GNU/Linux systems the questions
will certainly contain a bias as our expectations will be  preset by
the learning we have already done in the past.

Donna, on the other lists from where I've known her, has always
provided a lot of help to newbies once she has learned how to approach
a task.  It is my not at all humble opinion that Donna is a terrific
asset to any online community that is interested in technology and
people with vision impairment.

I think it would be a valuable exercise but also one that will take a
lot of time and effort to create a document with a name like,
"VoiceOver Eye for the  JAWS Guy" or something similar that provides
basic tutorial information about VO but also provides a "this is how
you did it with JAWS but this is a Macintosh with VoiceOver and we do
things this way..."

Maybe someone could even write a little program that just   presents a
table with JAWS Way, VO Way as columns for major functions and a
detail button for functions with no direct analogues on the other
platform.

Obviously, someone could add Window-Eyes, HAL, System Access and orca
but with a worldwide market-share of over 90%, JAWS is the most likely
screen reader one would be leaving to start using a Macintosh.

Everything from how VO speaks the character at the insertion point  to
table navigation is very different from the Windows and GNU
platforms.  A little understanding and patience and we'll make a new
friend and add a terrific mind to our community.

Peace,
cdh

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On Jul 31, 2009, at 9:35 AM, brandon armstrong wrote:

donna I'm sorry but i am getting real tired of your pointless
questions on this list.
you are coming to the point where i don't want to be here anymore
and i am on the virg of unsubscribing period.
Please stop asking questions that relate to windows on the mac.
thanks.
Brandon
On Jul 30, 2009, at 8:16 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:

Hi all,

Recently, when searching for text on a webpage using command-F, I
saw a button that said 2 results found, but I seemed to have no way
to actually see the results.  How do you view results when
searching on a webpage?
Thanks,
Donna

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