Wrong. All my sentiments are from the heart... --- On Sat, 11/8/08, Julie Krueger <juliereneb@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Julie Krueger <juliereneb@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Where politics hits the grass To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Saturday, November 8, 2008, 12:33 AM Irene likes to play devil's advocate to see what she can stir up ... a worthy goal, because of its potential to sift the wheat from the chaff. Sometimes it works well. Sometimes not so much so. On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 6:19 PM, Robert Paul <rpaul@xxxxxxxx> wrote: David Ritchie wrote I once helped break up a fight between a Weimar Reiner and a Doberman. The Doberman had had the early going, but the Weimar Reiner, with advantages of mass, power and guile, seized the Doberman by the throat and began to work its jaws. For the Doberman to have any chance at life, intervention would be necessary, so on the count of three, a friend and I each grabbed a set of back legs, and lifted. The improvised trick worked fine. I have since wondered if the principle could not be extended, but with people unfortunately, once they get up on their hinds legs, it's really quite a problem knowing where to grab hold. This is apparently an approved method and is suggested whenever one of the dog lists I'm on cycles back to How to Stop a Dog Fight. (I'm on Terrier-L, Wheaten-L, and KerryBlue-L.) The thumb in the butt method is sometimes mentioned also. The current topics on both the Wheaten and the Kerry Blue lists are Barney's biting the reporter (reporter should have known better, never approach a dog with your hand above its head, etc.), and whether the Obamas should get a Wheaten/Kerry Blue (both are hyopoallergenic dogs) or something else: the Wheaten people are almost all opposed to their getting a Wheaten; the breed would instantly become popular if they did, which would lead to puppy-millers' starting to breed Wheatens; the KBT folks are divided, but more tolerant. What is a Weimar Reiner? (I suspect there's some German pun I'm not getting here.) Robert Paul ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html -- Julie Krueger