In a message dated 4/6/2006 11:20:37 P.M. Central Daylight Time, robert.paul@xxxxxxxx writes: (Nobody's talking about 'fighting.' We've been talking about the use of torture.) Granted that there are sociopaths and sadists and just plain nuts in an large military force. Nobody's denying that. But how can you now attribute some (unspecified) wrongdoing to 'a small percentage' (who are disturbed in various ways) while claiming that the sort of thing people have here been calling into question should be our _policy_? This is a strange conflation. Hi, What troubles me is, as I have posted articles on this in the past, the outsourcing of torture that our government is doing. I would tend to trust (the majority of) our military to deal with extracting information from those who have information which would save more lives (and, indeed, there have been numerous accounts of our military and intelligence thwarting attacks which would have been horrific--see the account in Pediatrics which discussed how to care for children if an attack occurred...as there had been capture of those who were going to engage in a terrorist attack on Disneyland. This happened prior to 9-11---) It's our government's administration which bothers me--for their lack of accountability is almost frightening. To outsource to companies 'torture' is horrific--for no accountability, no 'policing' of their own by the military becomes necessary [if, in fact, the military is even involved...] ... the military has people in it all over the world who are working to make those on the fringes accountable. That is taken out of the arena when this outsourcing occurs... Best, Marlena in Missouri