I don't have a problem with Dirty Harry. I have a problem that Dirty Harry is a fictitious character for whom was written a plot with a good ending. In real life, believe it or not, endings are not controlled by script writers. If the story of Waco were written for Clint Eastwood, it hardly would have ended in a horrendous incendiary event with many deaths. If the invasion of Iraq were a movie and Clint Eastwood were starring in it, it's a pretty good bet that the U.S. would be victorious in about two hours. In real life, it didn't quite work out that way. One might wonder if the neocons didn't base the invasion of Iraq on a Dirty Harry movie. How does one win anything when one is so out of touch with reality? ----- Original Message ----- From: Lawrence Helm To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: 4/7/2006 3:06:21 PM Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: The torture graph Did you ever see Dirty Harry? There was no way to stop the killer other than by ling him. Do you disagree? The same thing is true in regard to the Islamists. They have declared war against us and fight by killing innocents. I just wondered whether you who badmouth our efforts to wage war in defense of innocents also oppose the efforts of Dirty Harry doing the same thing? This is my own private Rorschach Test. What do you think when I portray Dirty Harry protecting the innocents in a bus controlled by a cold-blooded killer? By criticizing Dirty Harry, the Mayor and Chief of Police were in effect supporting the killer. How about you, Irene? I think you said Medieval when I showed this to you earlier, but look again. Lawrence