[lit-ideas] Re: Sustaining our Resolve
- From: "Andy Amago" <aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "lit-ideas" <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 09:18:08 -0400
Bernard Lewis is a neocon. He promoted the "they'll greet us as liberators;
they'll greet us with flowers" plan. He also is the author if the "clash of
civilizations idea" three years before Huntington. Basically, we wished our
into this mess with his help.
http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/54a/051.html
"We?re now viewed as destroyers, and destruction is the retort. This is the
?new Middle East? that is aborning ? one of relentless violence ? if we do not
end our own relentless violence there. The would-be bombers in London are a
reminder of how close it is."
John Tirman is Executive Director of MIT's Center for International Studies.
His most recent book is 100 Ways America Is Screwing Up the World (Harper
Perennial, 2006).
http://www.alternet.org/story/40221/?comments=view&cID=176841&pID=176516
Also interesting is, if three years old; he certainly hasn't been proved wrong:
http://www.topplebush.com/article1_recpres.shtml
I'm still waiting to hear what we accomplished in Iraq, Lawrence.
----- Original Message -----
From: Lawrence Helm
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: 8/19/2006 4:15:19 AM
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Sustaining our Resolve
My point which you are evading is that we are in a war against Militant Islam
and Schultz has offered his opinions about what we ought to do. That is the
point of the article. You want to change it to a Leftist-quibble in order to
keep on moving on to blame America in some way, finding some way to blame
America instead of Militant Islam. We are at war but what you want to talk
about is a history of America?s sins seen through a Leftist magnifying glass.
I?m sure Chomsky would agree with everything you?ve said. As for me, I don?t
find it all that interesting because I keep coming back to the Main Point which
is that we have a real war and a real enemy. Who does it do good to keep on
blaming America? Well it does the Militant Islamists good and it apparently
warms the cockles of the Leftist heart.
What an evil thing to oppose the USSR you suggest. I assume you think that,
for you have no blame left over for the USSR, only America gets blamed. You
imply that we created terrorism and Islamism; when what we did was use the
anti-USSR opposition at hand. I can assure you that they didn?t need the CIA
to teach them how to do terrorism or assassination. Read Bernard Lewis book
The Assassins:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0465004989/sr=1-6/qid=1155973990/ref=sr_1_6/103-3867507-5345466?ie=UTF8&s=books
.
Yes, I read about the Afghan war against the USSR at a time when the
information closest to real-time came from Soldier of Fortune magazine. No
other publication was reporting on events on the ground over there. It didn?t
cause the slightest problem for me. I don?t recall any of the hate-America
narrations that you found. SOF reported soldiers helping Muslims fight against
the oppressing USSR. I guess it all depends on your point of view. Did you
want to fight the USSR or did you want to fight the US. I was apparently not
as conflicted as you. Yeah I say it was good for us to win the Cold War, and
it will be good for us to win this war against Militant Islam. I root for our
side. I want us to win. I want Militant Islam to lose, but that?s just me.
By the way, I didn?t think the note you seemingly refer to below was too
terribly long but you seem not to have read the whole thing. Brzezinski argued
in 1998 (but why am I telling you this when you probably won?t read this far --
again) that there was no globalized Islam; so you could not possibly have been
aware of this while it was happening. I didn?t read Ghost Wars, but I?ve read
books that cover the same information according to the reviews.
Lawrence
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