Eric Yost wrote: "In our democratic republic, the issue is clouded by money. Money takes the decisions away from citizens." I think that these sorts of claims about money are red-herrings, usually intended to lead the listener to conclusions about the threat posed by one's favourite villains. Elections are not determined by who has the most money. The same claims are made in sports, for example about those favourite villains, the Yankees or Cowboys, but the highest payrolls do not guarantee a World Series or the Super Bowl. After all the money is spent, the game still has to be played. Eric continues: "Scientists, assuming they are not scientists-for-hire, would at least offer a counterpoise to the money game, which is its own form of disenfranchisement." I am surprised that someone who is playing the world-weary cynic would claim that scientists, any scientists, can function outside the 'money game'. Science is where the real money is, a truth most of us in academia know all too well. See Robert's post about funding and publishing. Sincerely, Phil Enns Yogyakarta, Indonesia ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html