>Such a comment must have been extremely offensive to the poor Heidegger> Alternatively, "greatest living" may be a way of referring to H having the highest standard of living of any philosopher - it might be a somewhat tortuous way of saying this but perhaps no more tortuous than H's prose. Dnl Ldn On Saturday, 29 March 2014, 0:14, Omar Kusturica <omarkusto@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Such a comment must have been extremely offensive to the poor Heidegger, first in its assumptions that he was a being rather than Nothing, also in the implicature that he might not have been the greatest philosopher of all times but only 'the greatest living,' perhaps also that there could be philosophy after he proclaimed its end, and not to enumerate the minor offenses. O.K. On Friday, March 28, 2014 3:12 PM, "Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx" <Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx> wrote: From: palmaadriano@xxxxxxxxx Reply-to: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: 3/28/2014 5:47:27 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time Subj: [lit-ideas] just in case heidgeger the greatest living philosopher that 1. there is him (false) 2. that he is living (false) 3. that he is a philosopher (debatable) the sentences by grice are of the form santa claus is the most generous immortal human with sleds ---- We have to recall that Grice uttered, "Heidegger is the greatest living philosopher" in Spring Term (Harvard, 1967). At that time, ii. Heidegger is living. is true. I'm somewhat (but only somewhat) puzzled by 'great'. We have another great philosopher, Grosseteste, or Greathead, as he was called in Oxford. Robert Grosseteste (/ˈɡroʊstɛst/ grohs-test) or Grossetete (/ˈɡroʊsteɪ t/ grohs-tayt; c. 1175 – 9 October 1253) was an English statesman, scholastic philosopher, theologian, scientist and Bishop of Lincoln. He was born of humble parents at Stradbroke in Suffolk. A.C. Crombie calls him "the real founder of the tradition of scientific thought in medieval Oxford, and in some ways, of the modern English intellectual tradition". It may be argued that, in his day, Grosseteste was also the greatest living philosopher. Note that in this case, 'great' is 'ambiguous' (never polysemous). 'Great' may apply to his head or that of his antecessor (in the family). With Heidegger is the greatest living philosopher. the adjective 'greatest' need be compared with the more colloquial version of this: Heidegger is the biggest living philosopher. Note that in German, 'grossest' would be used, triggering yet further implicatures -- or not. Grice died in 1988. His Studies in the Way of Words was published in 1989. The utterance, "Heidegger is the greatest living philosopher" occurs on p. 18 of the book. A point was made by Harvard University Press about footnoting the point: "Grice is writing this when Heidegger is (still) alive", but it was "best left to be understood (as implicated). It was argued that working the point could unintentionally trigger disimplicatures about the meaning of [sic] "great" and "life". Cheers, Speranza ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html