LH:
As to America's rugged individualism as opposed to Europe's Paternalism, Ithink the former far more healthy. I prefer a philosophy that encourages usto stand on our own two feet as much as possible as opposed to one that encourages its citizens to expect the world (or its government) to provide it a living. European Paternalism is Marxism-Light.
Ah, Lawrence, you are one hardcore dude. I know you're worried about all the welfare bums of Europe ending up on your doorstep begging a hand-out, and I can't blame you, seeing as how you're the envy of all the world. All I can tell you is keep your guns loaded, bro.
There is one question that I've never been able to get a "government is the problem" conservative to respond to (and I think I know why) and that is this: what is there in you, about you, or that defines you that originated with you? I can't think of anything about myself that didn't originate outside myself. Every word, I use, every thought, every desire every molecule of oxygen I use to power the hundred trillion little creatures that compose my body -- there's nothing that's purely me, nothing I've done solely by myself. I can't sing "I Did It My Way" with a straight face. There's nothing rugged nor individual about me or anyone else that I can discern. So tell me, what makes you so unique?
Mike Geary Memphis----- Original Message ----- From: "Lawrence Helm" <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 12:10 PM Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Feeling Safe isn't safe
I think it rather stronger than a myth one can adhere to or not. Each nation has its beliefs that its citizens grow up with. They accept them whether they are conscious of them or not. Consider the Saudi myth Osamabin Laden grew up with. It is impossible for him to throw that off or lookat it objectively. He can't see it from our point of view.And, no, the government has no right to restrict our right to keep and bear arms. You are still quibbling about who we are. Some of us are babies whoshouldn't be allowed to hold a gun. Some of us have Alzheimer's who shouldn't be allowed near guns. Some of us are in Prison. Some of us arein mental Institutions. So many Lit-Ideas quibblers. So large a waste oftime. Lawrence -----Original Message-----From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Phil Enns Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 7:37 AM To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Feeling Safe isn't safe Lawrence Helm wrote:"Only those qualified means: not-criminals, not-nutcases, not-inept, and nottoo lazy to become qualified."We agree, then, that government has the right to restrict gun ownership andthat gun ownership is a privilege to be earned. It would appear that the 'if more people had guns, we would be safer' talk is something of aproblematic distraction but I can see how it fits the 'Rugged Individualism' mythology. We all have our myths that we use to get through the day, but asFreud tells us, some myths are healthier than others. And surely the JohnWayne mythology of carving law and order out of a chaotic frontier land is a bit out of place in an increasingly globalized world, and therefore perhapsnot entirely healthy? Sincerely, Phil Enns ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html
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