You continue to mistake our government for a European sort of Paternalism rather than a manifestation of what the people want. People wanted free land. The government merely regulated their desire. The government never had anything that was not the people's. You aren't able to leave your Leftist-Pacifistic fantasy even to spend the briefest time in reality are you? A pity. Lawrence From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike Geary Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 7:44 PM To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Feeling Safe isn't safe Lawrence reminds me of Alice, the one who said: "If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary-wise; what it is it wouldn't be, and what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?" Rugged individualism indeed! Lawrence is the last true believer in Herbert Hoover. God love him, he's persistently consistent in his madness. Rugged individualism - yes, yes, that same rugged individualism that won the west! Except, of course, for the role the US government played, for example there were the massive land purchases and giveaways, there was the Homestead Act, the Pony Express, agricultural colleges, rural electrification, telephone wiring, road-building, irrigation, dam-building, farm subsidies and foreclosure loans, the name just a few. And of course there's the "rugged individualism" that historian John Farragher describes as "a community experience...Sharing work with neighbors at cabin raisings, log rollings, haying, husking, butchering, harvesting or threshing were all traditionally considered communal affairs...[A] 'borrowing system' allowed scarce tools, labor and products to circulate for the benefit of all." One pioneer told prospective settlers: "Your wheel-barrows, your shovels, your utensils of all sorts, belong not to yourself, but to the public who do not think it necessary even to ask a loan, but take it for granted." Oh, and here's some more about the rugged individualism that Lawrence's paeans praise so masterfully: "By the turn of the century, the government had distributed a billion acres of land, but only 147 million became homesteads. Sociologists Scott and Sally McNall estimate that "probably only one acre in nine went to the small pioneers." Some 183 million acres were ultimately given to the railroad companies. (It was these federal giveaways that created the major logging companies, not family businesses.) Four out of five transcontinental railroads were built in this way, and Congress approved loans up to $48,000 per mile to build them. The West has a rich tradition of dependency on government. As historian Stephanie Coontz says: "It would be hard to find a Western family today or at any time in the past whose land rights, transportation options, economic existence, and even access to water were not dependent on federal funds." Paradoxically, however, the West has also enjoyed a long tradition of anti-government sentiments. When John Wayne punched out "Mr. Government Bureaucrat" in a Hollywood Western, he was acting out the misplaced rage of many Western Americans." http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-west.htm Mike Geary Memphis