I accidentally deleted John's reply to me, but the gist of what he was saying was I believe that terrorism is a minor risk compared to say diseases or traffic accidents, and as such we should put our concern in some perspective. And I fully agree. But what scares me much more than terrorism is the response it could generate. There is being safe and feeling safe. Being safe simply means the likelyhood of anything bad happening is low, feeling safe is much more complex. One way to grasp this is to make a disction between safety and security, safety being about harm due to accident, or alike causes and security being about attacks. Latter involves an attacker. People tend to underestimate safety risks and overestimate security risks. I suspect that this is due to fact that safety failures (traffic accidents, diseases) are seen as something that just happens ("acts of god") while security failures such as succesful terrorist attacks are attributable to some person. The attidue John is recomming is considering terrorism a safety issue, something that just happens, and while I find such fatalism healthy I'm less than confident others around me will see it the same way. There are measures that can be taken to make people feel more secure and measures that make them more secure. Windows 95 had a login screen where the user would enter his username and password, and that made users feel like their computer was protected although if you just clicked "Cancel" you would get full access to the computer. Another famous example of what is called security theatre, after 9/11 National Guard troops were posted to the airports, with no orders or (wisely) ammo. The problems is that some measures such as giving police dragonian powers that may indeed make people feel more secure while actually reducing security, because heavy handed law enforcement is a security risk as such with no obvious gain in combating terrorism for example. Civil liberties are themselves a security measure. And yes, the above owns a lot to Bruce Schneier's Beyond Fear, which is one the few books I honestly think is a must read. And no, I don't get a commision. Yours, Teemu Helsinki, Finland __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html