[lit-ideas] Re: Europe's September 11 ?
- From: "Steve Chilson" <stevechilson@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 20:53:44 -0800
Isn't it interesting though, how eager people seem to be (perhaps it is
just the media leading?) to name it, give it legitimacy? The question
isn't can such and such be a 9/11 but can such and such avoid be marauded
as yet another piece in the puzzle of the war on terrorism?
When will people begin to wonder about the causes of it before they swoon
to the tunes of 9/11 and blame it all on black and white?
Steve Chilson
etc.
On Sat, 13 Mar 2004 04:11:46 -0000, "JUDITH EVANS"
<judithevans001@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> said:
> It isn't really "Europe's September 11". 270 people died in the
> Lockerbie
> bombing in 1988, but if that happened now, I wouldn't call it "Europe's
> September 11".
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3506352.stm
>
> Judy Evans, Cardiff (UK)
> judithevans1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Omar Kusturica" <omarkusto@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 2:08 PM
> Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Europe's September 11 ?
>
>
> > --- Teemu Pyyluoma <teme17@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > Omar and John are over-reacting. After all the
> > > attack
> > > was timed three days before the election, and it is
> > > quite normal to assume that terrorists have a
> > > political motive. So I don't see what's so Bushie
> > > about calling it an attack on democracy, although it
> > > may be jumping to conclusions.
> >
> > *So the terrorists may be trying to influence the
> > result of the elections. (I don't really see why they
> > would want to do that, unless they were sent by Aznar
> > himself, but let's assume they do.) But that would
> > hardly qualify as an assault on democracy, rather it
> > would be an attempt to use or manipulate democracy.
> >
> > > Personally I found the Madric massacre particulary
> > > distressing because it was simply that, a massacre
> > > like the Bali bombing without any symbolic target
> > > (such as WTC) or purpose (like terrorist attacks in
> > > Iraq.)
> >
> > *Here you seem to advance your own interpretation,
> > which is different from the official, but equally
> > shaky. We don't really know at this point if there is
> > a purpose or what it is. Suggesting that such things
> > are done for no reason at all always strikes me as
> > improbable. The Bali bombings were probably intended
> > to destabilize the Indonesian secular government, and
> > they were probably aimed at Australia as well. (Many
> > of the victims were Australian tourists.)
> >
> > (snip)
> > >
> > > Ultimately the world we live in is secure because
> > > vast
> > > majority of people are decent human beings.
> >
> > *That is, I think, a good point. Most people naturally
> > feel moral repulsion at such acts. Unfortunately, the
> > rhetoric about "assault on democracy," which crudely
> > politicizes and ideologizes the event, leaves little
> > space for such natural human reactions.
> >
> > O.K.
> >
> >
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