Ah, that's alright then! I obviously misread your post as implying that you had only patched XP up to SP1 and had no plans to patch it further. M. -----Original Message----- From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of franklyn fisher Sent: 08 January 2008 19:46 To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jhb] Re: Windows XP Mike I am updated to the eyeballs, SP2+everything that the M$ site thows at me every few days. Likewise my AV (AVG Free). I am sitting behind a router Firewall, just installing Comodo as a trial, after disabling Win Security Centre, but have been happily sitting behind the router, with Win Firewall off for over 12 months. Also have Windows defender, and run scans using anti Malware progs now and again. Me paranoid!! these days, with those stupid idiots out there, you have to be. But why?? If Windoze had been designed as it should have been, the above would not be needed. And I would be happy to pay for the privalidge. It is all a consparisy by Redmond to make money out of you, I bet those yobs are hired by Bill G!! But there again, with Linux, all your troubles are over, and your pocket is heavier, but sooner or later, those yobs will catch on. Rant over, sorry. Frank F