[jhb] Re: Win7 and FSX

  • From: "Fossil" <fossil@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 10:51:43 -0000

I'm not sure there is Gerry. 

In the old days I would just have dragged the FSX folder to the C:\ drive
and create a new icon but things are too complex now. There will be far too
many registry entries that would fail and too many other programs that think
they know where FSX is located.  I suspect a reinstall would be the better
options for peace of mind.

One of the paragraphs I wrote seems to have lost a line or two and it makes
no sense. What it should have said is:

If you turn UAC off then the Program Files folder loses its protected 
status, files will be changed directly rather than in the Virtual Store.
I prefer to leave UAC on and install programs to a location outside 
the Program Files folder - in fact I install to a separate drive which is, 
mostly, empty. Some programs install to Program Files without giving you 
any option so their amended files will always be found in the VS. For 
programs outside the Program files folder UAC won't touch them and the 
Virtual Store doesn't know they exist.

bones

bones@xxxxxxx
http://woodair.net

-----Original Message-----
From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Gerry Winskill
Sent: 23 October 2012 09:37
To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jhb] Re: Win7 and FSX

I have FSX in the Program folder to which it installed itself. To move it to
a Root folder do I have to uninstal and re install FSX, or is there a
simpler way?

Gerry Winskill



On 23/10/2012 01:33, Fossil wrote:
> UAC only kicks in to protect files in the Program Files folder. 
> Windows maps this folder with UAC and if there is any attempt to 
> modify a file it saves the changes in a mirrored file in the Virtual
Store.
>
>
>
> For most programs this isn't an issue as the only original file likely 
> to change may be an INI or CFG file. But there are many programs that 
> amend of add many new files, may run a database or need constant
updating/amending.
> If so all this work gets bunged into the Virtual Store - the original 
> program folder always remains pristine and as it was at installation.
>
>
>
> If you turn UAC off then the Program Files folder loses its protected 
> status, file will be changed directly and the Virtual Store will cease 
> to exist. I prefer to leave UAC on and install to a location outside 
> Program Files which is, mostly, empty. Some programs install to there 
> without giving you an option so you will see their amended files in 
> the VS. For programs outside the Program files folder UAC can't touch 
> them and the Virtual Store doesn't know they exist.
>
>
>
> With our SBS systems we have many data files, waypoint files, outlines 
> files (coasts, airspace etc) and airline logos/aircraft silhouettes. 
> They number into the thousands and we have constant issues with new 
> users changing the files in the SBS folder and complaining that 
> nothing changes on screen. When we eventually manage to get them to 
> find the VS and change the file there everything works fine again. I 
> know we all have large hard drives but it is still annoying knowing 
> that Windows mirrors files in this way and clogs up space.
>
>
>
> I guess MS are aiming, as always, to the great computer illiterate out 
> there and don't give a stuff how much HD space it eats up.
>
>
>
> Stay away from Program Files and your machine will behave just like 
> you were used to in XP.
>
>
>
> bones
>
>
>
> bones@xxxxxxx
>
> http://woodair.net
>
>
>
> From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
> Behalf Of Peter Dodds
> Sent: 23 October 2012 00:08
> To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jhb] Re: Win7 and FSX
>
>
>
> I have always, since FS95, installed my sim directly off the root. 
> C:\FSX, or, in the case of my present FS machine G:\FSX where G:\ is 
> the second, non-OS HD. My 64bit Win7 laptop never gave me any trouble 
> (my son has it
> now!) adopting the same policy.  In fact I have been free of the many 
> issues that one sees reported, almost for ever. My present machine 
> runs out of memory occasionally, but if I switch off a couple of 
> resource-hungry apps (including dropbox) it remains OK.  Skype is a 
> big resource hog, and I won't have it on my FS machine.  I have turned UAC
off permanently.
>
> Peter
>
>
>
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>
>   <mailto:paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Paul Reynolds
>
> 23 October 2012 00:12
>
> My W7x64 setup had FSX installed on a second drive which naturally 
> took it outside of Programme Files.  UAC was not disabled and 
> everything ran fine, including connecting to IVAO. I say had because a 
> power surgesaw my mobo get fried so I'm now back to FS9 XP on my old PC.
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
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>   <mailto:phil.reynolds@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Phil Reynolds
>
> 22 October 2012 20:42
>
> Hi all,
>
> Could I get a bit of advice from all the FSX Win7-64bit users out there?
>
> I'm moving to a Win7-64bit system in the next few weeks and have read 
> various forum threads on how FSX should be installed/configured. My 
> only FSX installations to date have been on XP-32bit so this is all 
> new territory for me. Should I turn UAC off or install outside the 
> "Program Files" folder? Do I need to delete the UIAutomation dll? 
> Install FS/scenery/OS on separate HDDs? Lots of questions which I'm 
> sure you guys will have gone through to set up your systems.
>
> Any advice on installation and configuration would be appreciated.
>
> Many thanks
>
> Phil
>
>


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