[jhb] Re: Win7 and FSX

  • From: "Fossil" <fossil@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 16:23:58 -0000

The HD isn't due out for release until 25th so I have a little more waiting
to do.

Mine should be an improvement on my earlier Kindle as that is just an
e-reader. It is email and Internet I would be happy to have - not the music
or film downloading it plugs so much..

bones

bones@xxxxxxx
http://woodair.net


-----Original Message-----
From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Gerry Winskill
Sent: 23 October 2012 16:16
To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jhb] Re: Win7 and FSX

Got your Kindle Fire yet?

Mine arrived this morning and first reaction is that I'm a bit underwhelmed.
The Manual is about two pages. Most of the things I do daily on the Kindle,
like downloading the Telegraph, are either more complicated or I just can't
do them.

Off to look for a Kindle Fire Forum.

Gerry Winskill



On 23/10/2012 11:51, Fossil wrote:
> I'm not sure there is Gerry.
>
> In the old days I would just have dragged the FSX folder to the C:\ 
> drive and create a new icon but things are too complex now. There will 
> be far too many registry entries that would fail and too many other 
> programs that think they know where FSX is located.  I suspect a 
> reinstall would be the better options for peace of mind.
>
> One of the paragraphs I wrote seems to have lost a line or two and it 
> makes no sense. What it should have said is:
>
> If you turn UAC off then the Program Files folder loses its protected 
> status, files will be changed directly rather than in the Virtual Store.
> I prefer to leave UAC on and install programs to a location outside 
> the Program Files folder - in fact I install to a separate drive which 
> is, mostly, empty. Some programs install to Program Files without 
> giving you any option so their amended files will always be found in 
> the VS. For programs outside the Program files folder UAC won't touch 
> them and the Virtual Store doesn't know they exist.
>
> bones
>
> bones@xxxxxxx
> http://woodair.net
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
> Behalf Of Gerry Winskill
> Sent: 23 October 2012 09:37
> To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jhb] Re: Win7 and FSX
>
> I have FSX in the Program folder to which it installed itself. To move 
> it to a Root folder do I have to uninstal and re install FSX, or is 
> there a simpler way?
>
> Gerry Winskill
>
>
>
> On 23/10/2012 01:33, Fossil wrote:
>> UAC only kicks in to protect files in the Program Files folder.
>> Windows maps this folder with UAC and if there is any attempt to 
>> modify a file it saves the changes in a mirrored file in the Virtual
> Store.
>>
>>
>>
>> For most programs this isn't an issue as the only original file 
>> likely to change may be an INI or CFG file. But there are many 
>> programs that amend of add many new files, may run a database or need 
>> constant
> updating/amending.
>> If so all this work gets bunged into the Virtual Store - the original 
>> program folder always remains pristine and as it was at installation.
>>
>>
>>
>> If you turn UAC off then the Program Files folder loses its protected 
>> status, file will be changed directly and the Virtual Store will 
>> cease to exist. I prefer to leave UAC on and install to a location 
>> outside Program Files which is, mostly, empty. Some programs install 
>> to there without giving you an option so you will see their amended 
>> files in the VS. For programs outside the Program files folder UAC 
>> can't touch them and the Virtual Store doesn't know they exist.
>>
>>
>>
>> With our SBS systems we have many data files, waypoint files, 
>> outlines files (coasts, airspace etc) and airline logos/aircraft
silhouettes.
>> They number into the thousands and we have constant issues with new 
>> users changing the files in the SBS folder and complaining that 
>> nothing changes on screen. When we eventually manage to get them to 
>> find the VS and change the file there everything works fine again. I 
>> know we all have large hard drives but it is still annoying knowing 
>> that Windows mirrors files in this way and clogs up space.
>>
>>
>>
>> I guess MS are aiming, as always, to the great computer illiterate 
>> out there and don't give a stuff how much HD space it eats up.
>>
>>
>>
>> Stay away from Program Files and your machine will behave just like 
>> you were used to in XP.
>>
>>
>>
>> bones
>>
>>
>>
>> bones@xxxxxxx
>>
>> http://woodair.net
>>
>>
>>
>> From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
>> Behalf Of Peter Dodds
>> Sent: 23 October 2012 00:08
>> To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [jhb] Re: Win7 and FSX
>>
>>
>>
>> I have always, since FS95, installed my sim directly off the root.
>> C:\FSX, or, in the case of my present FS machine G:\FSX where G:\ is 
>> the second, non-OS HD. My 64bit Win7 laptop never gave me any trouble 
>> (my son has it
>> now!) adopting the same policy.  In fact I have been free of the many 
>> issues that one sees reported, almost for ever. My present machine 
>> runs out of memory occasionally, but if I switch off a couple of 
>> resource-hungry apps (including dropbox) it remains OK.  Skype is a 
>> big resource hog, and I won't have it on my FS machine.  I have 
>> turned UAC
> off permanently.
>>
>> Peter
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>    <mailto:paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Paul Reynolds
>>
>> 23 October 2012 00:12
>>
>> My W7x64 setup had FSX installed on a second drive which naturally 
>> took it outside of Programme Files.  UAC was not disabled and 
>> everything ran fine, including connecting to IVAO. I say had because 
>> a power surgesaw my mobo get fried so I'm now back to FS9 XP on my old
PC.
>>
>>
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>>
>>    <mailto:phil.reynolds@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Phil Reynolds
>>
>> 22 October 2012 20:42
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Could I get a bit of advice from all the FSX Win7-64bit users out there?
>>
>> I'm moving to a Win7-64bit system in the next few weeks and have read 
>> various forum threads on how FSX should be installed/configured. My 
>> only FSX installations to date have been on XP-32bit so this is all 
>> new territory for me. Should I turn UAC off or install outside the 
>> "Program Files" folder? Do I need to delete the UIAutomation dll?
>> Install FS/scenery/OS on separate HDDs? Lots of questions which I'm 
>> sure you guys will have gone through to set up your systems.
>>
>> Any advice on installation and configuration would be appreciated.
>>
>> Many thanks
>>
>> Phil
>>
>>
>
>
>


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