[jhb] Re: Win7 and FSX

  • From: Gerry Winskill <gwinsk@xxxxxxx>
  • To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 19:35:02 +0100

The other bit that was a surprise is the way it handles purchased books. On the kindle they are all stored on the Device. The manual, which I bought this evening, says each one is downloaded to the Fire, only as you opt to read it. On a cruise, where internet prices are horrendous, that means I'll have to use the Kindle instead.


Gerry Winskill



On 23/10/2012 17:23, Fossil wrote:
The HD isn't due out for release until 25th so I have a little more waiting
to do.

Mine should be an improvement on my earlier Kindle as that is just an
e-reader. It is email and Internet I would be happy to have - not the music
or film downloading it plugs so much..

bones

bones@xxxxxxx
http://woodair.net


-----Original Message-----
From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Gerry Winskill
Sent: 23 October 2012 16:16
To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jhb] Re: Win7 and FSX

Got your Kindle Fire yet?

Mine arrived this morning and first reaction is that I'm a bit underwhelmed.
The Manual is about two pages. Most of the things I do daily on the Kindle,
like downloading the Telegraph, are either more complicated or I just can't
do them.

Off to look for a Kindle Fire Forum.

Gerry Winskill



On 23/10/2012 11:51, Fossil wrote:
I'm not sure there is Gerry.

In the old days I would just have dragged the FSX folder to the C:\
drive and create a new icon but things are too complex now. There will
be far too many registry entries that would fail and too many other
programs that think they know where FSX is located.  I suspect a
reinstall would be the better options for peace of mind.

One of the paragraphs I wrote seems to have lost a line or two and it
makes no sense. What it should have said is:

If you turn UAC off then the Program Files folder loses its protected
status, files will be changed directly rather than in the Virtual Store.
I prefer to leave UAC on and install programs to a location outside
the Program Files folder - in fact I install to a separate drive which
is, mostly, empty. Some programs install to Program Files without
giving you any option so their amended files will always be found in
the VS. For programs outside the Program files folder UAC won't touch
them and the Virtual Store doesn't know they exist.

bones

bones@xxxxxxx
http://woodair.net

-----Original Message-----
From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Gerry Winskill
Sent: 23 October 2012 09:37
To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jhb] Re: Win7 and FSX

I have FSX in the Program folder to which it installed itself. To move
it to a Root folder do I have to uninstal and re install FSX, or is
there a simpler way?

Gerry Winskill



On 23/10/2012 01:33, Fossil wrote:
UAC only kicks in to protect files in the Program Files folder.
Windows maps this folder with UAC and if there is any attempt to
modify a file it saves the changes in a mirrored file in the Virtual
Store.



For most programs this isn't an issue as the only original file
likely to change may be an INI or CFG file. But there are many
programs that amend of add many new files, may run a database or need
constant
updating/amending.
If so all this work gets bunged into the Virtual Store - the original
program folder always remains pristine and as it was at installation.



If you turn UAC off then the Program Files folder loses its protected
status, file will be changed directly and the Virtual Store will
cease to exist. I prefer to leave UAC on and install to a location
outside Program Files which is, mostly, empty. Some programs install
to there without giving you an option so you will see their amended
files in the VS. For programs outside the Program files folder UAC
can't touch them and the Virtual Store doesn't know they exist.



With our SBS systems we have many data files, waypoint files,
outlines files (coasts, airspace etc) and airline logos/aircraft
silhouettes.
They number into the thousands and we have constant issues with new
users changing the files in the SBS folder and complaining that
nothing changes on screen. When we eventually manage to get them to
find the VS and change the file there everything works fine again. I
know we all have large hard drives but it is still annoying knowing
that Windows mirrors files in this way and clogs up space.



I guess MS are aiming, as always, to the great computer illiterate
out there and don't give a stuff how much HD space it eats up.



Stay away from Program Files and your machine will behave just like
you were used to in XP.



bones



bones@xxxxxxx

http://woodair.net



From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Peter Dodds
Sent: 23 October 2012 00:08
To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jhb] Re: Win7 and FSX



I have always, since FS95, installed my sim directly off the root.
C:\FSX, or, in the case of my present FS machine G:\FSX where G:\ is
the second, non-OS HD. My 64bit Win7 laptop never gave me any trouble
(my son has it
now!) adopting the same policy.  In fact I have been free of the many
issues that one sees reported, almost for ever. My present machine
runs out of memory occasionally, but if I switch off a couple of
resource-hungry apps (including dropbox) it remains OK.  Skype is a
big resource hog, and I won't have it on my FS machine.  I have
turned UAC
off permanently.

Peter






    <mailto:paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Paul Reynolds

23 October 2012 00:12

My W7x64 setup had FSX installed on a second drive which naturally
took it outside of Programme Files.  UAC was not disabled and
everything ran fine, including connecting to IVAO. I say had because
a power surgesaw my mobo get fried so I'm now back to FS9 XP on my old
PC.



Paul



    <mailto:phil.reynolds@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Phil Reynolds

22 October 2012 20:42

Hi all,

Could I get a bit of advice from all the FSX Win7-64bit users out there?

I'm moving to a Win7-64bit system in the next few weeks and have read
various forum threads on how FSX should be installed/configured. My
only FSX installations to date have been on XP-32bit so this is all
new territory for me. Should I turn UAC off or install outside the
"Program Files" folder? Do I need to delete the UIAutomation dll?
Install FS/scenery/OS on separate HDDs? Lots of questions which I'm
sure you guys will have gone through to set up your systems.

Any advice on installation and configuration would be appreciated.

Many thanks

Phil









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