Re: Information Bar notifications (was Buttons)
- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 12:43:01 -0700
Mark,
thanks. So first of all, it's not exactly a real "bar" in the sense of
something that's always there, like the tool bar. And it probably doesn't
contain very many controls, maybe just something that amounts to a dialogue
with two controls for responding to the kind of thing that triggers it? And
you say you don't have to jump on alt n immediately after getting a notice
like that? Well, does that mean you can do it anytime after hearing Jaws say
that you've just avoided a popup, if you get a notion to see what it was, a
few minutes later? In other words, does the timing depend not on how long
the Info Bar stays up, because it only comes into view (so to speak) if you
hit alt n when receiving a notice, but how long the notice itself stays
displayed? My pop-up notice seems to speak and then go away completely, in a
couple of seconds.
So I guess I'm not imagining accurately what happens. But what you and
Adrian explained helps me to understand at least what you're supposed to do
if you receive some sort of notice, whatever that might include besides
pop-up announcements, and I'll take it from there. Maybe next time I get a
pop-up blocker notice, I'll alt n and just see what controls or whatever I
wind up accessing. Just don't experience many of those notices as I used to,
as if advertisers have simply given up on pop-ups, for the most part.
Is there any other category of "event" that triggers the notice thing?
Besides pop-ups?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Driesenga" <truthobjective@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: Information Bar notifications (was Buttons)
The information bar only appears when something triggers it--like, for
example, a popup being blocked. It's not necessary to "quickly press alt
n", but merely pressing it will put focus on the information bar, at which
point pressing the space bar will actually display the menu. It's a bit
tricky, I'll admit--since, obviously, Freedom didn't implement any sort of
tutor message or anything alerting users as to what to do in the event of
the information bar being displayed, but according to the JAWS help system,
the process I've just described is the method for accessing the information
bar. Mark
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: Information Bar notifications (was Buttons)
> Adrian,
> In other words, in the absence of an event like the below, the keystroke
> does nothing? Also, when I do occasionally hear that IE has blocked a
> pop-up
> and then hear a message telling me what to do if I wish to see it, is it
> then that if I very quickly press alt n, I'll reach some sort of control
> to
> use to say yes I want to see this pop-up? I've never responded to one of
> those notices, so I don't even know if the response remains available for
> more than a few seconds.
>
> but mainly, if alt n will not simply take you to the Information Bar, is
> the
> Information Bar a real screen element that's always there, as is the Tool
> Bar? Or is it a sort of mini command center that comes onscreen only if
> you
> click something with a mouse or press alt n upon receiving some sort of
> notice?
>
>
> Thanks.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Adrian Spratt" <A.Spratt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 11:05 AM
> Subject: Re: Information Bar notifications (was Buttons)
>
>
> From what Jeffrey says, alt-n brings up the information bar when IE blocks
> something, such as a popup. JAWS alerts us when that occurs.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> Hi Jeffrey,
>
> I'm relatively new to IE 7, and still in the process of finding my way
> around it with Jaws. What sort of notification are you referring to where,
> as I'm guessing may happen, you are presented with some kind of dialogue
> with a couple of controls in it, including one for accessing the
> Information
> Bar for some reason, which you can activate with Alt N if you don't wish
> to
> tab to the control and press enter? I'm just imagining something like that
> because, after reading your message below, I went to IE where I already
> have
> a Web page open, and pressed Alt N, thinking that this would take me to
> something in the Information Bar. But since Alt N had no effect at all,
> I'm
> guessing that what you're referring to must be some kind of special
> situation to which Alt N is one available response.
>
> Would you mind explaining what sort of notification and scenario you're
> referring to?
>
> Thanks a lot.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeffrey Shockley" <jawswizard@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 9:43 AM
> Subject: Re: Buttons
>
> Hi, I don't know if you can rename the buttons that you want to rename in
> IE. However, when you get a notification in the Information Bar, you can
> just press Alt + N to go to the information bar and get a menu with
> choices
> that let you decide what you want to do if something is blocked by IE.
> HTH,
> Jeffrey Check out my blog! The URL is
> http://jeffreyshockley.livejournal.com
> "You learn something new every day!" "You can do anything if you put your
> mind to it!" "It is not what we see that determines who we are. It is how
> we
> choose to see it."
> --Doomed Dragon
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jouie
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 11:26 AM
> Subject: Buttons
>
> Hi
>
> Can I put a name or rename a button? When I press insert F5 in internet
> explorer, I just get the 1,2,3. buttons. Are those numbers really the
> label
> of the buttons? And, how do you deal with the information bar? I mean, is
> there a keystroke for that?
>
> Jouie
>
> Regards,
>
> E-mail me at:
>
> jouiecel27@xxxxxxxxx
>
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