I don't even miss these commands, I have the Cygwin commands loaded so I can grep, awk, and sed to my heart's content if I want to. I find myself doing most of that stuff in perl now anyways, which also has been ported to the Windows world. -- George Patrick Tektronix, Inc. Central Engineering, PCB Design Group P.O. Box 500, M/S 39-512 Beaverton, OR 97077-0001 Phone: 503-627-5272 Fax: 503-627-5587 http://www.tektronix.com http://www.pcb-designer.com It's my opinion, not Tektronix' -----Original Message----- From: Gene Carman [mailto:gcarman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 08:46 To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: UNIX vs PC Workstation Tend to agree... when I used a workstation I still had a PC on my desktop for email, documentation and meeting connections (meeting maker/outlook). Now granted, I could do email using UNIX and Pine... but folks would send me documents that had to be updated and mined for data... that eventually went to the PC and Word. Ultimately I ran the PC through a VNC connection from UNIX just to unclutter my desktop... but the PC was still there and thus so was the expense. Now running from PC alone, I can easily cut and paste data from one screen to another, take snapshots of the schematics and layout and paste them into docs (used to mail them from the UNIX box to the PC to do this) and I only have one machine on my desk... with lots of memory. I miss certain command line things in UNIX... but I can always telnet into one of the company UNIX boxes to do certain things (grep.... ) Now further regarding UNIX workstations... Have they come so far down in price? PCs can be had for only a couple K... UNIX boxes??? -----Original Message----- From: Kevin McCowan [mailto:kmccowan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 6:52 AM To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: UNIX vs PC Workstation Steve, In my opinion, the reason to switch to a PC is the wealth of compatible software that is available. I used to use a unix workstation and was very happy with it. Now I use windows and don't really like the limitations that windows puts on me. But, on the other hand windows has the upper hand in the application and compatibility space. At this point in time, given the choices available, I would choose windows. I would pick the most powerful 2 processor machine you can get with at lease 1G of memory. I have had almost no problems using win xp and feel it is as "good as windows gets". Best of luck, Kevin McCowan Sr PCB Designer TSI Telsys Steve.J Miller wrote: > I just joined the list, so this topic may have already been covered. > We are currently running on UNIX servers. They are going to replace > them soon. Cost wise between a UNIX server and a PC workstation it is > pretty much even. My supervisor wants to know if switching to the PC > workstation version would be beneficial. We only have 3 board > designers. The engineers rlog in to the servers to use Concept. 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