[openbeos] Re: Site Audit
- From: "Oliver Ruiz Dorantes" <oliver.ruiz.dorantes@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: openbeos@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 13:27:03 +0200
Amazing work Karl,
I am sure many of us had this idea in mind. In fact I worked in some zoho
formularies which people could submit wanted applications and other could
post something like a url mirror. To "save" the application. Maybe this can
be added in Haikuware somehow Karl?
Some Comments:
- I hope in your SPIDER-WEB manual job you also retrieved all possible
sources. Even if the app is zeta only or is old, the application can be
ported and updated somewhere in time.
- The list and this anouncement must be public. The list in plan txt(as
requested) might help to search in our personal entire archive. I might be
able to do something automatic with that saving in cvs might to most of the
work. In my company they are excel genious. And then a easy script bash
script if the a given archive path, constains somethe that is present in
that TXt file. As apps are getting recovered they could be marked as it is
and, i guess seeing this motivates people to submit their files.
- How do we make you arrive the files? I just have a webdav account in gmx
which i could share but others? anyone with a ftp to be able to drop the
files?
Proposal: declare something like a "beshare sharing week" where all comunity
shares its archive. Therefore Karl and other individuals could complete the
"Target app database"
- An App its not safe with only the binary, at the time Haiku switches to
gcc4 that app would be old, and lost as could not be used anymore. So now
might be a good chance to beg for opensourcing, submit binary and src, to
ensure the app is alive forever.
Vamos!!
2008/10/11 Schrijvers Luc <Begasus@xxxxxxxxx>
> Is BeBits going down?!
>
> On vr, 2008-10-10 at 14:59 -0400, Karl vom Dorff wrote:
> > Dear Community,
> >
> > It's probably no surprise to many of you (as you see the number of
> > files on Haikuware increase) that I've been spending the last while
> > auditing BeBits.
> >
> > I think it's important to have a software base ready for when Haiku's
> > ready, and if users have to deal with the vast amount of missing
> > software at BeBits where ~35% (conservative estimate) of the files are
> > missing, they will surely get frustrated! Some may argue, why bother?
> > The software is old! To them I would say - old software doesn't
> > necessarily equate to bad software... Also, imagine if BeBits were
> > gone tomorrow. That would be a great loss.
> >
> > To make a long story short, here's what I've been doing:
> >
> > * downloading all available files. When there was missing
> > software, I would check against the file name at: a) BeShare
> > b) Archive.org c) Google d) Check the Talkback comments for
> > links. In short, if the missing files were available somewhere
> > on the net, they have to be hiding pretty good...
> > * importing the files, descriptions, dates, icons, etc. Adding
> > archived links to author homepages if they disappeared, etc.
> > * centralizing all the files on one server (later to be mirrored
> > in Europe and Asia) so that the infamous BeBits 'missing
> > file/dead link' never happens again.
> > * linking files only to one category. BeBits is confusing and
> > misleading because files are listed in multiple categories
> > (artificially inflating the file counts in each category. e.g
> > total file count listed on their frontpage when adding all
> > together = 6500, actual files = 3535). So when you're browsing
> > software, you don't know whether you've already passed by the
> > file you're looking at or not therefore wasting time. Not to
> > mention wasting time finding a link that works or visiting
> > unwelcomed porn sites hehe.
> > * removed Zeta software.
> >
> > I'm 90% complete the task, and will be spending the next 2-3 weeks
> > finishing. BeBits lists 3535 'files' on their website, of which I
> > estimate 35% are gone (= 2298 actual files). Today I uploaded the
> > 2222nd file to Haikuware, meaning very shortly, Haikuware may be the
> > largest (but not most popular) online provider of BeOS (and Haiku if
> > Haiku R1 achieves binary compatibilty) software (and maybe retro
> > software in general)... But that's not really the point.
> >
> > The point is, I'd like to salvage as much BeOS software as possible.
> > I'd like to ask the community to contribute any missing files (that
> > I'm sure they have on CDs in their basements) my way, so I can fill
> > the missing gaps. I've tried to keep a record (sometimes GoogleDocs
> > crashed on me) of the missing files, and for the most part, should be
> > pretty complete. You can view the documents here (in XLS, ODF):
> >
> > http://www.haikuware.com/downloads/registered/haikuware.zip
> >
> > Although I would hope most people see this endeavour as a good thing,
> > I can appreciate that some developers may not like their software
> > hosted at Haikuware. Please contact me, and I'll remove whatever you
> > wish.
> >
> > Lastly, I know the design of Haikuware lacks in function, speed, and
> > aesthetics (compared to BeBits). Once I'm done with all the files,
> > I'll be re-designing the website and hope to have it ready for the
> > Alpha 1 release. I'm looking at an RoR design perhaps. Something that
> > will be able to stand a huge database and lots of traffic. I'm also
> > looking to create a unique website that will combine the best parts of
> > VersionTracker, BeBits, Download.com, etc. Therefore, if anyone can
> > recommend a good developer/team or has any suggestions I'd be
> > greatful. Also, if anyone here thinks they may be up to this task (I'd
> > like to keep the work in the community if possible), contact me
> > privately with your resume. It has to be someone with serious
> > credentials (not a Joomla hacker like me) with 6-8 weeks of full-time
> > labour. A full proposal is in the works, and will probably be 20-30
> > pages. Ask for my budget - serious enquiries only please.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Karl vom Dorff
> > B.Sc (Hons) Biology, (German minor)
> >
> > http://www.karlvd.com
> > http://www.clubloreley.org
> > http://www.haikuware.com
> >
> >
>
>
>
--
Oliver,
http://urnenfeld.blogspot.com
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