[openbeos] Re: Site Audit

  • From: "Karl vom Dorff" <karl@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: openbeos@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 17:24:19 -0400

On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 4:07 PM, . Meanwhile . <meanwhile@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Karl vom Dorff" <karl@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: openbeos@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [openbeos] Site Audit
> > Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 14:59:55 -0400
> >
> >
> > Dear Community,
> >
> > It's probably no surprise to many of you (as you see the number of files
> on
> > Haikuware increase) that I've been spending the last while auditing
> BeBits.
> >
> > I think it's important to have a software base ready for when Haiku's
> ready,
> > and if users have to deal with the vast amount of missing software at
> BeBits
> > where ~35% (conservative estimate) of the files are missing, they will
> > surely get frustrated! Some may argue, why bother? The software is old!
> To
> > them I would say - old software doesn't necessarily equate to bad
> > software... Also, imagine if BeBits were gone tomorrow. That would be a
> > great loss.
> >
> > To make a long story short, here's what I've been doing:
> >
> >
> >     - downloading all available files. When there was missing software, I
> >     would check against the file name at: a) BeShare b) Archive.org
> > c) Google d)
> >     Check the Talkback comments for links. In short, if the missing files
> were
> >     available somewhere on the net, they have to be hiding pretty good...
> >     - importing the files, descriptions, dates, icons, etc. Adding
> archived
> >     links to author homepages if they disappeared, etc.
> >     - centralizing all the files on one server (later to be mirrored in
> >     Europe and Asia) so that the infamous BeBits 'missing file/dead link'
> never
> >     happens again.
> >     - linking files only to one category. BeBits is confusing and
> misleading
> >     because files are listed in multiple categories (artificially
> inflating the
> >     file counts in each category. e.g total file count listed on
> > their frontpage
> >     when adding all together = 6500, actual files = 3535). So when you're
> >     browsing software, you don't know whether you've already passed by
> the file
> >     you're looking at or not therefore wasting time. Not to mention
> > wasting time
> >     finding a link that works or visiting unwelcomed porn sites hehe.
> >     - removed Zeta software.
> >
> >
> > I'm 90% complete the task, and will be spending the next 2-3 weeks
> > finishing. BeBits lists 3535 'files' on their website, of which I
> estimate
> > 35% are gone (= 2298 actual files). Today I uploaded the 2222nd file to
> > Haikuware, meaning very shortly, Haikuware may be the largest (but not
> most
> > popular) online provider of BeOS (and Haiku if Haiku R1 achieves binary
> > compatibilty) software (and maybe retro software in general)... But
> that's
> > not really the point.
> >
> > *The point is, I'd like to salvage as much BeOS software as possible. I'd
> > like to ask the community to contribute any missing files (that I'm sure
> > they have on CDs in their basements) my way, so I can fill the missing
> gaps.
> > I've tried to keep a record (sometimes GoogleDocs crashed on me) of the
> > missing files, and for the most part, should be pretty complete. You can
> > view the documents here (in XLS, ODF): *
> >
> > http://www.haikuware.com/downloads/registered/haikuware.zip
> >
> > Although I would hope most people see this endeavour as a good thing, I
> can
> > appreciate that some developers may not like their software hosted at
> > Haikuware. Please contact me, and I'll remove whatever you wish.
> >
> > Lastly, I know the design of Haikuware lacks in function, speed, and
> > aesthetics (compared to BeBits). Once I'm done with all the files, I'll
> be
> > re-designing the website and hope to have it ready for the Alpha 1
> release.
> > I'm looking at an RoR design perhaps. Something that will be able to
> stand a
> > huge database and lots of traffic. I'm also looking to create a unique
> > website that will combine the best parts of VersionTracker, BeBits,
> > Download.com, etc. Therefore, if anyone can recommend a good
> developer/team
> > or has any suggestions I'd be greatful. Also, if anyone here thinks they
> may
> > be up to this task (I'd like to keep the work in the community if
> possible),
> > contact me privately with your resume. It has to be someone with serious
> > credentials (not a Joomla hacker like me) with 6-8 weeks of
> > *full-time*labour. A full proposal is in the works, and will probably
> > be 20-30 pages.
> > Ask for my budget - serious enquiries only please.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Karl vom Dorff
> > B.Sc (Hons) Biology, (German minor)
> >
> > http://www.karlvd.com
> > http://www.clubloreley.org
> > http://www.haikuware.com
>
> Great work!
> Could you also make an unsorted but alphabetical list of it?
> I guess many -other- people will have just a single 'BeOSfiles' folder
> somewhere on their HD or CD.
> The software that opened the .xls file can't seem to do this (though I
> almost never use it).


It's all in cells organized by category and alphabetical in the cells.

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Karl vom Dorff
B.Sc (Hons) Biology, (German minor)

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