[haiku-web] Re: Fwd: [General] Add Comunity Project
- From: Matt Madia <mattmadia@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: haiku-web@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 11:38:22 +0000
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 4:26 AM, Jorge G. Mare <koki@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Howdy,
>
>> The easier we can make it to share and get information about Haiku the
>> more likely people are to contribute, use and develop for it (IMHO).
>
> In my experience/opinion, using a wiki will make no difference in
> improving the quality of the documentation; in fact, I think it could
> actually be detrimental for the quality of the content; that was why the
> Haiku wiki was taken down in the first place: it had become a nobody's
> land full of inaccurate and redundant information, and a place that
> many used to express their opinions rather than to convey factual
> information. A free for all system (wiki or not), lends itself to this
> sort of results, which is why I personally do not like it.
>
I don't remember how long ago that was. However, something must be
said about the people who used Haiku back then and who uses Haiku
today. Just not who -- Haiku developer vs. non-haiku-dev, but also
the amount of users. These two things definitely impact the amount
and type of people who are able to contribute to the wiki.
As far as the quality of content, well, that remains to be seen. Just
to point out the obvious, nothing is prevent those types of comments
from being posted in forums or as comments on blogs/articles.
Given Drupal's fine-grained permissions, would it be possible to
remove an individual's ability to edit the druki (drupal-based wiki)?
While I hope this wouldn't be necessary, it could serve as a means to
restrict write access to those individuals who mis-use the druki, have
been warned, and continued to misuse it.
> The morale of the above (true) story is that if people want to
> participate, they would; if they don't it's because they don't have the
> time or motivation (or both). Since we moved to Drupal, a lot of people
> requested and were granted editing permissions to the website, but most
> of them have done little or nothing with it. Moreover, any registered
> user can submit content, including documents for users and developers,
> news posts, RFCs and conferences: with very few exceptions, we have not
> seen a significant contribution here either.
>
> Summary, I don't buy it that the lack of collaboration is a technical
> issue associated with the CMS that we happen to use. Granted, Haiku's
> website may not be perfect, but perhaps we should analyze what needs to
> be improved and pursue such improvements to our existing infrastructure,
> rather than to look elsewhere; that's where I think the focus should be
> IMNSHO. :)
>
My largest gripe with the website's current state : Even though anyone
can contribute an article under their name, they aren't allowed to set
it editable by other authenticated users. As a result, the burden to
edit and fix articles is on the author, the admin, or those with
editor access. This issue is what's driving my desire for *any*
wiki-like functionality, whether it be implemented in Drupal or
provided by actual Wiki software.
--mmadia
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