[gps-talkusers] Re: Preview of Sendero GPS LookAround 1.1

  • From: "James Malone" <malone_j@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 05:50:03 -0700

Hi, The problem I see with a Garmon is that it's a touch screen. It's been a
few years, but unless they make the user interface accessible, then you know
the rule.
As far as the Nokia smart Phone, do you still have to be with A T and T?

-----Original Message-----
From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf of Jim Noseworthy
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 
4:45 AM
To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Preview of Sendero GPS LookAround 1.1

Alice:

Get yourself a Nokia smart Phone and you will have basically the same 
result.

Cheers.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alice Dampman Humel" <alicedh@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 8:36 AM
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Preview of Sendero GPS LookAround 1.1


> Hi, Kevin and all,
>    I was in a car the other day. The driver was using a Garmon. It was 
> fantastic. It said, "in 500 yards, turn left onto Main Street." Simple, 
> clear, concise, easy to follow. The driver also tole me that she felt the 
> POI searches were great, too.
>    Anyone seen this? All the GPS's I've heard up till now have always only

> said "in 500 yards turn right " without identifying the streets. Of 
> course, we'd also need the GPS to tell us when we hit Main Street, but 
> this Garmon semed to do that, too. Wonder if it's accurate enough for 
> walking and for blind people who can't read the street signs?
> Alice
> alicedh@xxxxxxxxxxx
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kevin Chao" <kevinchao89@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 12:43 AM
> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Preview of Sendero GPS LookAround 1.1
>
>
>> Mike and All,
>> Yes, you can enter an address in TomTom, but Navigon is more ahead in
>> accessibility and has moreVoiceOver users, which has resulted in
>> accessibility refinements and will result in more. Agree about having
>> multiple GPS as they use different maps, which is why Skobbler is
>> great as it is free and uses OpenStreetMap, which none of these use.
>> TomTom does own TeleAtlas and Nokia does own NavTeq.
>> Do recommend Navigon over TomTom.
>> Kevin
>> http://twitter.com/kevinchao89
>> On 10/12/10, Mike Arrigo <n0oxy@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> What can you do in the tom tom app? Can you at least enter a 
>>> destination? I
>>> may purchase it if that can be done. Kapten GPS is very accessible also,

>>> but
>>> I don't think the voice guidance is as good. The Magellan app isn't even
>>> compatible with IOS 4 yet. I'm actually surprised Garmin has not 
>>> developed
>>> an iphone app. The one advantage to having a few different apps is that 
>>> it
>>> can be good to have an app from each map provider. Navigon uses the 
>>> navteq
>>> maps, and I think the kapten GPS does too. Tom tom uses teleatlas. 
>>> Actually
>>> Tom Tom owns teleatlas now I think, and Nokia owns navteq.
>>> On Oct 12, 2010, at 7:47 PM, Kevin Chao wrote:
>>>
>>>> TomTom is somewhat accessible. navigon is by far the best in that it
>>>> gives you intersection information, spoken street names etc. Skobbler
>>>> doesn't have spoken street names, intersection information, but is
>>>> free and gives directions. AroundMe or Where are great for searching
>>>> for POIs based on categories, names etc. Where has benefit of social
>>>> aspect, which also uses crowd source to get reviews, check ins,
>>>> ratings, gas prices etc.
>>>> Great thing with these various companies is they are very receptive to
>>>> feedback, especially Navigon, TomTom and Skobbler, all whom I have
>>>> provided feedback.
>>>> Kevin
>>>> http://twitter.com/kevinchao89
>>>>
>>>> On 10/12/10, Mike Arrigo <n0oxy@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> I can type decently on my iphone, but I am faster on a keypad, no 
>>>>> doubt
>>>>> about that. I actually got an unlocked iphone and I use it with 
>>>>> t-mobile.
>>>>> Apple knows how to put out some unique products, but I have no idea 
>>>>> what
>>>>> they were thinking when they got in to this exclusive at&t deal, I 
>>>>> mean,
>>>>> if
>>>>> a carrier is going to subsidize a phone, that's fine, but to refuse to
>>>>> sell
>>>>> the phone unlocked in this country makes no sense whatsoever.
>>>>> Fortunately,
>>>>> they are available unlocked via import. I've been testing some GPS 
>>>>> apps,
>>>>> so
>>>>> far, the best one seems to be the navigon app. The kapten GPS app is 
>>>>> also
>>>>> good. I'm pretty sure that a combination of the sendero look around 
>>>>> app
>>>>> and
>>>>> the navigon app will give me the features I use with mobile geo on my
>>>>> windows mobile phone. Of course, you can't virtually explore the map 
>>>>> with
>>>>> this combination, but I never use that anyway. Another accessible app 
>>>>> is
>>>>> called motion GPS drive, it's accessible, but the voice directions 
>>>>> don't
>>>>> say
>>>>> the street names. There'
>>>>> s another one called copilot, but it's completely inaccessible with
>>>>> voiceover. I've also heard that the tomtom and magellan apps are also
>>>>> inaccessible, does ayone know if this is true?
>>>>> On Oct 11, 2010, at 10:05 PM, Michael May wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> This is a very relevant topic for everyone.
>>>>>> The writing aspect of the iPhone is its weakest link. Every piece of
>>>>>> technology has its trade offs and this is the issue with the iPhone.
>>>>>> Like all trade offs, there are some work arounds. You will get better

>>>>>> at
>>>>>> writing with practice, not without some frustration. How good you get
>>>>>> really depends. Some people are quite fast with the touch screen
>>>>>> keyboard.
>>>>>> Others hate it. I personally fall somewhere in between. I am still 
>>>>>> way
>>>>>> faster texting on a keypad on the N86 than I am writing a text 
>>>>>> message
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> the iPhone. Forget about writing any long emails.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can also acquire an external wireless keyboard to use for 
>>>>>> writing.
>>>>>> You
>>>>>> can also interface with the Apex and other Braille devices. I find 
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> the most exciting combination. It is very cool to be able to read
>>>>>> everything that the iPhone speaks on the Apex Braille display and 
>>>>>> then
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> be able to respond to emails using the Apex keyboard.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I consider the iPhone my media center and my N86 my phone for calls 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> text messages. It is kind of expensive to have two phone lines so I 
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> eventually bite the bullet and probably use the iPhone. Just don't
>>>>>> expect
>>>>>> prompt text messages from me if you write.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of GianniP46
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 2:33 PM
>>>>>> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Preview of Sendero GPS LookAround 1.1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey Guys,
>>>>>> I know this is off topic, but can someone who is using the IPhone 
>>>>>> email
>>>>>> me
>>>>>> off list?.  I am contemplating getting one, but I am nervous about 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> touch screen interface.  Is texting and dialing really that efficient
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> out buttons?  Or am I better off with a nokia n82 or E 73?
>>>>>> My email address is
>>>>>> giannip46@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: Michael May
>>>>>> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 7:40 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Preview of Sendero GPS LookAround 1.1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We sent this updated version to Apple today. I hope it is posted 
>>>>>> within
>>>>>> 3
>>>>>> or
>>>>>> 4 days. Not sure if the weekend impacts these things.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As you will soon see, we fixed the bugs having to do with the saving 
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> settings and the country selection.
>>>>>> We added the ability to select a POI category and to dial the POI 
>>>>>> phone
>>>>>> number.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We will have another round of small improvements after this version 
>>>>>> gets
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> real world test.
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sendero GPS LookAround, Version 1.1 Documentation
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sendero GPS LookAround for the iPhone is available in the app store. 
>>>>>> It
>>>>>> works with the iPhone 3GS and higher. It will not function with the
>>>>>> iPod.
>>>>>> No
>>>>>> telephone support is available from Sendero Group. There is no
>>>>>> turn-by-turn
>>>>>> navigation information in Sendero LookAround for the iPhone. There 
>>>>>> are 5
>>>>>> applications powered by Sendero GPS on other platforms, which have
>>>>>> comprehensive navigation features. For information on these products,
>>>>>> visit
>>>>>> http://www.AccessibleGPS.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To use Sendero GPS LookAround:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Touch the Sendero GPS icon to launch the application. You will be
>>>>>> presented
>>>>>> with a disclaimer. Touch the OK Button to accept the disclaimer. 
>>>>>> Also,
>>>>>> touch
>>>>>> the OK Button when asked if it is ok to use your current location. If
>>>>>> there
>>>>>> is compass interference, you may find that touching the OK button 
>>>>>> does
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> work at first. Read the screen to see if there is an error message. 
>>>>>> Wave
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> phone in a figure eight motion to clear the compass message if
>>>>>> necessary.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To receive the LookAround information, shake the iPhone until you 
>>>>>> feel a
>>>>>> vibration and hear a swishing sound. It may take from 5 to 30 seconds
>>>>>> depending on the point of interest data location. The swish will give
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> progress indication every 3 seconds. Once you move positions and want

>>>>>> to
>>>>>> "Look around" again, shake the iPhone to receive new information.
>>>>>> Remember
>>>>>> when you press Home and leave the application and then launch it 
>>>>>> again,
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> previous information may still be on the screen. Shake again to get 
>>>>>> new
>>>>>> information.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you don't hear anything several seconds after shaking the phone,
>>>>>> touch
>>>>>> the top of the screen to hear what is being displayed. Perhaps the
>>>>>> information wasn't spoken, the request timed out or there is no GPS
>>>>>> position, in which case you may hear, "Limited position data. Change
>>>>>> location and try again."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Once you have launched Sendero GPS LookAround, a shake of the iPhone
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> cause LookAround to display the current Heading, street, city, cross
>>>>>> street
>>>>>> and nearest point of interest based on the POI category you have 
>>>>>> chosen
>>>>>> under settings. It defaults to the Restaurant category. Note the 
>>>>>> Variety
>>>>>> category is a combination of 8 categories containing the letter E 
>>>>>> such
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> restaurant and hotel. Searching 8 categories at once may cause the 
>>>>>> app
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> time-out more frequently.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The main screen is laid out with output text displayed toward the top

>>>>>> of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> screen with 3 long buttons in the lower half of the screen, one above
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> other. There are 5 small buttons evenly spaced across the bottom of 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> screen. Don't tap too hard when activating these buttons as you may
>>>>>> trigger
>>>>>> the iPhone shake feature.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The 3 main buttons are:
>>>>>> 1. Where Am I button:
>>>>>> The first long button is the Where Am I button, which announces 
>>>>>> heading,
>>>>>> nearest address and city. You receive a vibration and beep after
>>>>>> activating
>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The LookAround software makes its best guess as to which street you 
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> and which is the cross street. Many positioning factors go into 
>>>>>> whether
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> information is correct. This may be particularly problematic if you 
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> inside or among tall buildings. This is because of your distance away
>>>>>> from
>>>>>> the street and because the positioning indoors is worse than it is
>>>>>> outdoors
>>>>>> and out in the open.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. Nearest Cross Street Button:
>>>>>> This is the second of the 3 long buttons. It announces the nearest
>>>>>> street
>>>>>> and cross street. Again, this refers to the nearest street and not
>>>>>> necessarily the one ahead in your direction of travel. If you are at 
>>>>>> an
>>>>>> intersection, it is common for GPS systems to get confused as to 
>>>>>> which
>>>>>> street you are on versus which one is the cross street. A vibration 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> beep
>>>>>> will confirm that you activated this button.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3. Nearest 5 Points of Interest button:
>>>>>> Whereas the Shake gives you the nearest single point of interest, 
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> POI
>>>>>> button displays up to 5 nearby points of interest in the category you
>>>>>> choose
>>>>>> under Settings. The search goes out to 2 kilometers, 1.24 miles. 
>>>>>> These
>>>>>> points are based on proximity, 360 degrees around you. A vibration 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> beep
>>>>>> will confirm that you activated this button. A swish every 3 seconds
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> indicate that a search is in progress.
>>>>>> Note: You can hear the distance to these various items in feet, yards

>>>>>> or
>>>>>> meters. The default is Yards. This can be changed under the Settings
>>>>>> menu.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Once POIs are found, a list will be shown in a separate screen with 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> name
>>>>>> of the POI followed by the distance and compass direction to that 
>>>>>> POI.
>>>>>> These
>>>>>> are buttons you can click on to receive more details like the address
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> phone number. Click on the phone number to call that business. A Call

>>>>>> or
>>>>>> Cancel button will then be presented. The Back button will take you 
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> POI list. If you do call the business, you will be taken to the phone
>>>>>> application and will need to launch LookAround again. It will of 
>>>>>> course
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> in the task switching list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The 5 buttons across the bottom of the iPhone main LookAround screen
>>>>>> from
>>>>>> left to right are as follows: There is a beep after the touch of each
>>>>>> button. There is no vibration.
>>>>>> 1. The Map button takes you to Google maps and a push-pin is 
>>>>>> displayed
>>>>>> on the screen to indicate your position. Voice Over will not announce
>>>>>> any
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> the map information. Press the Back Button to exit the Map and return

>>>>>> to
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> main screen.
>>>>>> 2. The Compass button will indicate which direction the iPhone is
>>>>>> facing if there is no compass interference, which may come from 
>>>>>> nearby
>>>>>> electronics or magnetic forces. Once you have changed direction with 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> phone, touch the Compass button. Once you receive the confirming 
>>>>>> beep,
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> new compass direction should be spoken. If not, touch the top of the
>>>>>> screen
>>>>>> to hear the text output. If you are told there is compass 
>>>>>> interference,
>>>>>> slowly move the phone in a figure eight shape while it is laying 
>>>>>> flat.
>>>>>> When
>>>>>> the interference goes away, the error will disappear from the screen.
>>>>>> 3. Shake on/off toggle button. If you hear Shake On button, this 
>>>>>> means
>>>>>> the Shake feature is enabled as described above. The purpose of this
>>>>>> toggle
>>>>>> is so you can turn the shake feature off when you place the phone in
>>>>>> your
>>>>>> pocket or bag without closing the LookAround application. Normal 
>>>>>> walking
>>>>>> will tend to make the phone shake inadvertently and keep talking 
>>>>>> unless
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> switch off the Shake feature. Alternatively, press the power button 
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> top of the phone briefly to lock the screen temporarily. You will 
>>>>>> need
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> unlock the screen before LookAround will function again.
>>>>>> 4. The Setting button will open another screen with a list of options
>>>>>> such as Shake on and off, Country, Metric/Imperial distance units and
>>>>>> Help.
>>>>>> The item which is enabled will say "selected."
>>>>>> The POI Category Button, which has a flag icon, takes you to a list 
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> categories. There is a Picker list. Voice Over users can swipe up and
>>>>>> down
>>>>>> to change the category. Press the Back Button to return to the main
>>>>>> screen
>>>>>> and your new POI category will be used when you shake the phone or 
>>>>>> press
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> 5 POI button. This category list is in alphabetical order.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Note: When you touch any of the 3 primary buttons on the main screen,
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> focus is moved to the text portion of the screen and you will hear 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> text
>>>>>> spoken. If you want to activate one of those buttons again, you need 
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> move
>>>>>> focus back to the button before activating it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Secondary Sendero LookAround Screens:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Settings Screen:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There are 4 items on the Settings screen, one above the other and a 
>>>>>> Back
>>>>>> button in the top left of the screen, which takes you out of Settings
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> Back to the Main screen. These settings will be saved until you 
>>>>>> install
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> new version of LookAround.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The first item is Shake Gesture. To its right is its on/off status. 
>>>>>> You
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> hear Selected for the active status.
>>>>>> If you select the Off status, the Shake button will be removed from 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> main
>>>>>> screen. This is different than the function of the Shake button on 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> main
>>>>>> screen, which turns it off temporarily.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The second button allows you to select the map region and you will 
>>>>>> hear
>>>>>> which one is selected to its right. The current options are North
>>>>>> America
>>>>>> for the US and Canada and the other is Europe, which contains most 
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> all maps for the region. We hope to add other countries in future
>>>>>> versions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The third button is Distance unit, Feet, Meters or Yards. The active
>>>>>> unit
>>>>>> will say selected. The default is yards.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The fourth button will take you to the Help screen.
>>>>>> This screen has hints and tips for using the iPhone. There is a link 
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> bottom to the Sendero iPhone page, which has more details. The Back
>>>>>> button
>>>>>> is in the top left corner. The disclaimer button is in the bottom 
>>>>>> right
>>>>>> corner.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> POI Category Screen
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This screen starts with a Back button in the upper left corner 
>>>>>> followed
>>>>>> by
>>>>>> the title text, Select POI Category.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Below that is the currently selected item. Touch this item and then 
>>>>>> move
>>>>>> up
>>>>>> and down through the list of categories. Whichever category is
>>>>>> highlighted
>>>>>> is the one that will be used once you return to the main screen. 
>>>>>> There
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> no
>>>>>> Save or Done button. Just press Back to return to the main screen.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Known Issues:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There may be locations where you hear a POI label spoken but no data
>>>>>> reported. Please email us with the city and state or lat/lon to
>>>>>> GPS@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx if you come across this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There may also be situations where the POIs are far away or for some
>>>>>> other
>>>>>> reason the swishing goes for a long time. It should time out after 2
>>>>>> minutes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Operational items to be aware of:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Map data for most countries is from Tele Atlas with POI content from
>>>>>> Info
>>>>>> USA. The data resides on a server so if phone connectivity is lost, 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> data
>>>>>> cannot be accessed. There is no data resident on the phone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The iPhone performs its positioning based on triangulation of the
>>>>>> nearest
>>>>>> cell towers as well as with GPS. This means that if you are indoors, 
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> still receive rough location information even without GPS reception. 
>>>>>> It
>>>>>> depends how far away these cell towers are as to the accuracy you 
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> receive.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When you are outside, the built-in GPS receiver and antenna can 
>>>>>> improve
>>>>>> accuracy to the typical 30 to 50 feet range. For maximum accuracy, 
>>>>>> give
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> phone some time to acquire a GPS fix outside and away from tall
>>>>>> buildings
>>>>>> if
>>>>>> possible. See the Sendero "GPS Accuracy" document for a comprehensive
>>>>>> explanation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The iPhone compass direction within Sendero LookAround helps to 
>>>>>> indicate
>>>>>> which way you are oriented but it does not synch up with the 
>>>>>> direction
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> the street it says you are on. It may be that it says you are heading
>>>>>> West
>>>>>> and announces a street that only goes North and South. There is
>>>>>> currently
>>>>>> no
>>>>>> way to corroborate this information. Magnetic fields in the 
>>>>>> environment
>>>>>> such
>>>>>> as electronics, elevators and large masses of metal can influence the
>>>>>> compass.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It almost goes without saying that map and POI data can be out of 
>>>>>> date
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> soon as published. We encourage users not to take it personally if 
>>>>>> their
>>>>>> street or favorite business is not in the database. Amazingly, most 
>>>>>> are.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When you press Home and leave the Sendero LookAround app, it remains
>>>>>> running
>>>>>> in the background but the GPS position is not active. When you open 
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> again, the last function you performed will display its information 
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> screen.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Sendero LookAround app works with the iPhone 4 and 3GS but does 
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> work
>>>>>> with the iPod Touch or the iPhone 3G.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you encounter a problem not listed here, please let us know as 
>>>>>> well
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> feature requests. Send to iPhone @SenderoGroup.com or join our Email
>>>>>> Lists (http://senderogroup.com/social_media/email.htm)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Copyright 2010 Sendero Group, LLC.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Michael May, CEO Sendero Group
>>>>>> Developers of accessible GPS and distributors of technology for the
>>>>>> blind
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Voice, 530-757-6800
>>>>>> MikeMay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> http://www.senderogroup.com
>>>>>> http://www.AccessibleGPS.com
>>>>>> http://www.CrashingThrough.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 429 F Street, Suite 4
>>>>>> Davis, CA 95616
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Michael May, CEO Sendero Group
>>>>>> Developers of accessible GPS and distributors of technology for the
>>>>>> blind
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Voice, 530-757-6800
>>>>>> MikeMay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> http://www.senderogroup.com
>>>>>> http://www.AccessibleGPS.com
>>>>>> http://www.CrashingThrough.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 429 F Street, Suite 4
>>>>>> Davis, CA 95616
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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