[gps-talkusers] Re: Preview of Sendero GPS LookAround 1.1

  • From: "GianniP46" <giannip46@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 11:24:22 -0400

is the n86 a newer or older phone?  Does it have a standard keypad or a qwerty 
keypad?
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Carol Pearson 
  To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 4:38 PM
  Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Preview of Sendero GPS LookAround 1.1


  Get an N86 if you can find one, either from Nokia or Sight & Sound.

  If you want to go the IPhone route, I suggest you have a good look and play 
and also listen to some of the recordings out there of people using them to see 
whether you think it's for you.

  I haven't taken the plunge yet but may do one day.  ...

  --
  Carol
  carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  On Twitter:  http://twitter.com/songbird49a

  ---- Original Message ----
  From: GianniP46
  To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 10:32 PM
  Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Preview of Sendero GPS
  LookAround 1.1 

  > Hey Guys,
  > I know this is off topic, but can someone who is using
  > the IPhone email me off list?.  I am contemplating
  > getting one, but I am nervous about the touch screen
  > interface.  Is texting and dialing really that efficient
  > with out buttons?  Or am I better off with a nokia n82 or
  > E 73?     
  > My email address is
  > giannip46@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  > Thanks!
  > ----- Original Message -----
  > From: Michael May
  > To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  > Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 7:40 PM
  > Subject: [gps-talkusers] Preview of Sendero GPS
  > LookAround 1.1 
  > 
  > 
  > We sent this updated version to Apple today. I hope it is
  > posted within 3 or 
  > 4 days. Not sure if the weekend impacts these things.
  > 
  > As you will soon see, we fixed the bugs having to do with
  > the saving of 
  > settings and the country selection.
  > We added the ability to select a POI category and to dial
  > the POI phone 
  > number.
  > 
  > We will have another round of small improvements after
  > this version gets the 
  > real world test.
  > Mike
  > 
  > Sendero GPS LookAround, Version 1.1 Documentation
  > 
  > Sendero GPS LookAround for the iPhone is available in the
  > app store. It 
  > works with the iPhone 3GS and higher. It will not
  > function with the iPod. No 
  > telephone support is available from Sendero Group. There
  > is no turn-by-turn 
  > navigation information in Sendero LookAround for the
  > iPhone. There are 5 
  > applications powered by Sendero GPS on other platforms,
  > which have 
  > comprehensive navigation features. For information on
  > these products, visit 
  > http://www.AccessibleGPS.com
  > 
  > To use Sendero GPS LookAround:
  > 
  > Touch the Sendero GPS icon to launch the application. You
  > will be presented 
  > with a disclaimer. Touch the OK Button to accept the
  > disclaimer. Also, touch 
  > the OK Button when asked if it is ok to use your current
  > location. If there 
  > is compass interference, you may find that touching the
  > OK button does not 
  > work at first. Read the screen to see if there is an
  > error message. Wave the 
  > phone in a figure eight motion to clear the compass
  > message if necessary. 
  > 
  > To receive the LookAround information, shake the iPhone
  > until you feel a 
  > vibration and hear a swishing sound. It may take from 5
  > to 30 seconds 
  > depending on the point of interest data location. The
  > swish will give you a 
  > progress indication every 3 seconds. Once you move
  > positions and want to 
  > "Look around" again, shake the iPhone to receive new
  > information. Remember 
  > when you press Home and leave the application and then
  > launch it again, the 
  > previous information may still be on the screen. Shake
  > again to get new 
  > information.
  > 
  > If you don't hear anything several seconds after shaking
  > the phone, touch 
  > the top of the screen to hear what is being displayed.
  > Perhaps the 
  > information wasn't spoken, the request timed out or there
  > is no GPS 
  > position, in which case you may hear, "Limited position
  > data. Change 
  > location and try again."
  > 
  > Once you have launched Sendero GPS LookAround, a shake of
  > the iPhone will 
  > cause LookAround to display the current Heading, street,
  > city, cross street 
  > and nearest point of interest based on the POI category
  > you have chosen 
  > under settings. It defaults to the Restaurant category.
  > Note the Variety 
  > category is a combination of 8 categories containing the
  > letter E such as 
  > restaurant and hotel. Searching 8 categories at once may
  > cause the app to 
  > time-out more frequently.
  > 
  > The main screen is laid out with output text displayed
  > toward the top of the 
  > screen with 3 long buttons in the lower half of the
  > screen, one above the 
  > other. There are 5 small buttons evenly spaced across the
  > bottom of the 
  > screen. Don't tap too hard when activating these buttons
  > as you may trigger 
  > the iPhone shake feature.
  > 
  > The 3 main buttons are:
  > 1. Where Am I button:
  > The first long button is the Where Am I button, which
  > announces heading, 
  > nearest address and city. You receive a vibration and
  > beep after activating 
  > it.
  > 
  > The LookAround software makes its best guess as to which
  > street you are on 
  > and which is the cross street. Many positioning factors
  > go into whether this 
  > information is correct. This may be particularly
  > problematic if you are 
  > inside or among tall buildings. This is because of your
  > distance away from 
  > the street and because the positioning indoors is worse
  > than it is outdoors 
  > and out in the open.
  > 
  > 2. Nearest Cross Street Button:
  > This is the second of the 3 long buttons. It announces
  > the nearest street 
  > and cross street. Again, this refers to the nearest
  > street and not 
  > necessarily the one ahead in your direction of travel. If
  > you are at an 
  > intersection, it is common for GPS systems to get
  > confused as to which 
  > street you are on versus which one is the cross street. A
  > vibration and beep 
  > will confirm that you activated this button.
  > 
  > 3. Nearest 5 Points of Interest button:
  > Whereas the Shake gives you the nearest single point of
  > interest, this POI 
  > button displays up to 5 nearby points of interest in the
  > category you choose 
  > under Settings. The search goes out to 2 kilometers, 1.24
  > miles. These 
  > points are based on proximity, 360 degrees around you. A
  > vibration and beep 
  > will confirm that you activated this button. A swish
  > every 3 seconds will 
  > indicate that a search is in progress.
  > Note: You can hear the distance to these various items in
  > feet, yards or 
  > meters. The default is Yards. This can be changed under
  > the Settings menu. 
  > 
  > Once POIs are found, a list will be shown in a separate
  > screen with the name 
  > of the POI followed by the distance and compass direction
  > to that POI. These 
  > are buttons you can click on to receive more details like
  > the address and 
  > phone number. Click on the phone number to call that
  > business. A Call or 
  > Cancel button will then be presented. The Back button
  > will take you to the 
  > POI list. If you do call the business, you will be taken
  > to the phone 
  > application and will need to launch LookAround again. It
  > will of course be 
  > in the task switching list.
  > 
  > The 5 buttons across the bottom of the iPhone main
  > LookAround screen from 
  > left to right are as follows: There is a beep after the
  > touch of each 
  > button. There is no vibration.
  > 1. The Map button takes you to Google maps and a push-pin
  > is displayed 
  > on the screen to indicate your position. Voice Over will
  > not announce any of 
  > the map information. Press the Back Button to exit the
  > Map and return to the 
  > main screen.
  > 2. The Compass button will indicate which direction the
  > iPhone is 
  > facing if there is no compass interference, which may
  > come from nearby 
  > electronics or magnetic forces. Once you have changed
  > direction with the 
  > phone, touch the Compass button. Once you receive the
  > confirming beep, the 
  > new compass direction should be spoken. If not, touch the
  > top of the screen 
  > to hear the text output. If you are told there is compass
  > interference, 
  > slowly move the phone in a figure eight shape while it is
  > laying flat. When 
  > the interference goes away, the error will disappear from
  > the screen. 
  > 3. Shake on/off toggle button. If you hear Shake On
  > button, this means 
  > the Shake feature is enabled as described above. The
  > purpose of this toggle 
  > is so you can turn the shake feature off when you place
  > the phone in your 
  > pocket or bag without closing the LookAround application.
  > Normal walking 
  > will tend to make the phone shake inadvertently and keep
  > talking unless you 
  > switch off the Shake feature. Alternatively, press the
  > power button on the 
  > top of the phone briefly to lock the screen temporarily.
  > You will need to 
  > unlock the screen before LookAround will function again.
  > 4. The Setting button will open another screen with a
  > list of options 
  > such as Shake on and off, Country, Metric/Imperial
  > distance units and Help. 
  > The item which is enabled will say "selected."
  > The POI Category Button, which has a flag icon, takes you
  > to a list of 
  > categories. There is a Picker list. Voice Over users can
  > swipe up and down 
  > to change the category. Press the Back Button to return
  > to the main screen 
  > and your new POI category will be used when you shake the
  > phone or press the 
  > 5 POI button. This category list is in alphabetical order.
  > 
  > Note: When you touch any of the 3 primary buttons on the
  > main screen, the 
  > focus is moved to the text portion of the screen and you
  > will hear the text 
  > spoken. If you want to activate one of those buttons
  > again, you need to move 
  > focus back to the button before activating it.
  > 
  > Secondary Sendero LookAround Screens:
  > 
  > Settings Screen:
  > 
  > There are 4 items on the Settings screen, one above the
  > other and a Back 
  > button in the top left of the screen, which takes you out
  > of Settings and 
  > Back to the Main screen. These settings will be saved
  > until you install a 
  > new version of LookAround.
  > 
  > The first item is Shake Gesture. To its right is its
  > on/off status. You will 
  > hear Selected for the active status.
  > If you select the Off status, the Shake button will be
  > removed from the main 
  > screen. This is different than the function of the Shake
  > button on the main 
  > screen, which turns it off temporarily.
  > 
  > The second button allows you to select the map region and
  > you will hear 
  > which one is selected to its right. The current options
  > are North America 
  > for the US and Canada and the other is Europe, which
  > contains most but not 
  > all maps for the region. We hope to add other countries
  > in future versions. 
  > 
  > The third button is Distance unit, Feet, Meters or Yards.
  > The active unit 
  > will say selected. The default is yards.
  > 
  > The fourth button will take you to the Help screen.
  > This screen has hints and tips for using the iPhone.
  > There is a link at the 
  > bottom to the Sendero iPhone page, which has more
  > details. The Back button 
  > is in the top left corner. The disclaimer button is in
  > the bottom right 
  > corner.
  > 
  > POI Category Screen
  > 
  > This screen starts with a Back button in the upper left
  > corner followed by 
  > the title text, Select POI Category.
  > 
  > Below that is the currently selected item. Touch this
  > item and then move up 
  > and down through the list of categories. Whichever
  > category is highlighted 
  > is the one that will be used once you return to the main
  > screen. There is no 
  > Save or Done button. Just press Back to return to the
  > main screen. 
  > 
  > Known Issues:
  > 
  > There may be locations where you hear a POI label spoken
  > but no data 
  > reported. Please email us with the city and state or
  > lat/lon to 
  > GPS@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx if you come across this.
  > 
  > There may also be situations where the POIs are far away
  > or for some other 
  > reason the swishing goes for a long time. It should time
  > out after 2 
  > minutes.
  > 
  > 
  > Operational items to be aware of:
  > 
  > Map data for most countries is from Tele Atlas with POI
  > content from Info 
  > USA. The data resides on a server so if phone
  > connectivity is lost, the data 
  > cannot be accessed. There is no data resident on the
  > phone. 
  > 
  > The iPhone performs its positioning based on
  > triangulation of the nearest 
  > cell towers as well as with GPS. This means that if you
  > are indoors, you can 
  > still receive rough location information even without GPS
  > reception. It 
  > depends how far away these cell towers are as to the
  > accuracy you will 
  > receive.
  > 
  > When you are outside, the built-in GPS receiver and
  > antenna can improve 
  > accuracy to the typical 30 to 50 feet range. For maximum
  > accuracy, give the 
  > phone some time to acquire a GPS fix outside and away
  > from tall buildings if 
  > possible. See the Sendero "GPS Accuracy" document for a
  > comprehensive 
  > explanation.
  > 
  > The iPhone compass direction within Sendero LookAround
  > helps to indicate 
  > which way you are oriented but it does not synch up with
  > the direction of 
  > the street it says you are on. It may be that it says you
  > are heading West 
  > and announces a street that only goes North and South.
  > There is currently no 
  > way to corroborate this information. Magnetic fields in
  > the environment such 
  > as electronics, elevators and large masses of metal can
  > influence the 
  > compass.
  > 
  > It almost goes without saying that map and POI data can
  > be out of date as 
  > soon as published. We encourage users not to take it
  > personally if their 
  > street or favorite business is not in the database.
  > Amazingly, most are. 
  > 
  > When you press Home and leave the Sendero LookAround app,
  > it remains running 
  > in the background but the GPS position is not active.
  > When you open it 
  > again, the last function you performed will display its
  > information on the 
  > screen.
  > 
  > The Sendero LookAround app works with the iPhone 4 and
  > 3GS but does not work 
  > with the iPod Touch or the iPhone 3G.
  > 
  > If you encounter a problem not listed here, please let us
  > know as well as 
  > feature requests. Send to iPhone @SenderoGroup.com or
  > join our Email 
  > Lists (http://senderogroup.com/social_media/email.htm)
  > 
  > Copyright 2010 Sendero Group, LLC.
  > 
  > Michael May, CEO Sendero Group
  > Developers of accessible GPS and distributors of
  > technology for the blind 
  > 
  > Voice, 530-757-6800
  > MikeMay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  > http://www.senderogroup.com
  > http://www.AccessibleGPS.com
  > http://www.CrashingThrough.com
  > 
  > 429 F Street, Suite 4
  > Davis, CA 95616
  > 
  > 
  > Michael May, CEO Sendero Group
  > Developers of accessible GPS and distributors of
  > technology for the blind 
  > 
  > Voice, 530-757-6800
  > MikeMay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  > http://www.senderogroup.com
  > http://www.AccessibleGPS.com
  > http://www.CrashingThrough.com
  > 
  > 429 F Street, Suite 4
  > Davis, CA 95616
  > 
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