[gps-talkusers] Re: Preview of Sendero GPS LookAround 1.1

  • From: "Carol Pearson" <carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 12:34:13 +0100

The N86 is newer than the N82, has 8GB of onboard storage and is a great phone. 
 It has a firm slider, though the keypad is fairly flat.

It meets my needs at the moment.

I only wish that it was suitable for Sendero GPS.

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Carol
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---- Original Message ----
From: GianniP46
To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 4:24 PM
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Preview of Sendero GPS
LookAround 1.1 

> is the n86 a newer or older phone?  Does it have a
> standard keypad or a qwerty keypad? 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Carol Pearson
> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 4:38 PM
> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Preview of Sendero GPS
> LookAround 1.1 
> 
> 
> Get an N86 if you can find one, either from Nokia or
> Sight & Sound. 
> 
> If you want to go the IPhone route, I suggest you have a
> good look and play and also listen to some of the
> recordings out there of people using them to see whether
> you think it's for you.   
> 
> I haven't taken the plunge yet but may do one day.  ...
> 
> --
> Carol
> carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> On Twitter:  http://twitter.com/songbird49a
> 
> ---- Original Message ----
> From: GianniP46
> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 10:32 PM
> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Preview of Sendero GPS
> LookAround 1.1
> 
> > Hey Guys,
> > I know this is off topic, but can someone who is using
> > the IPhone email me off list?.  I am contemplating
> > getting one, but I am nervous about the touch screen
> > interface.  Is texting and dialing really that efficient
> > with out buttons?  Or am I better off with a nokia n82
> > or E 73?
> > My email address is
> > giannip46@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Thanks!
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Michael May
> > To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 7:40 PM
> > Subject: [gps-talkusers] Preview of Sendero GPS
> > LookAround 1.1
> >
> >
> > We sent this updated version to Apple today. I hope it
> > is posted within 3 or
> > 4 days. Not sure if the weekend impacts these things.
> >
> > As you will soon see, we fixed the bugs having to do
> > with the saving of
> > settings and the country selection.
> > We added the ability to select a POI category and to
> > dial the POI phone
> > number.
> >
> > We will have another round of small improvements after
> > this version gets the
> > real world test.
> > Mike
> >
> > Sendero GPS LookAround, Version 1.1 Documentation
> >
> > Sendero GPS LookAround for the iPhone is available in
> > the app store. It
> > works with the iPhone 3GS and higher. It will not
> > function with the iPod. No
> > telephone support is available from Sendero Group. There
> > is no turn-by-turn
> > navigation information in Sendero LookAround for the
> > iPhone. There are 5
> > applications powered by Sendero GPS on other platforms,
> > which have
> > comprehensive navigation features. For information on
> > these products, visit
> > http://www.AccessibleGPS.com
> >
> > To use Sendero GPS LookAround:
> >
> > Touch the Sendero GPS icon to launch the application.
> > You will be presented
> > with a disclaimer. Touch the OK Button to accept the
> > disclaimer. Also, touch
> > the OK Button when asked if it is ok to use your current
> > location. If there
> > is compass interference, you may find that touching the
> > OK button does not
> > work at first. Read the screen to see if there is an
> > error message. Wave the
> > phone in a figure eight motion to clear the compass
> > message if necessary.
> >
> > To receive the LookAround information, shake the iPhone
> > until you feel a
> > vibration and hear a swishing sound. It may take from 5
> > to 30 seconds
> > depending on the point of interest data location. The
> > swish will give you a
> > progress indication every 3 seconds. Once you move
> > positions and want to
> > "Look around" again, shake the iPhone to receive new
> > information. Remember
> > when you press Home and leave the application and then
> > launch it again, the
> > previous information may still be on the screen. Shake
> > again to get new
> > information.
> >
> > If you don't hear anything several seconds after shaking
> > the phone, touch
> > the top of the screen to hear what is being displayed.
> > Perhaps the
> > information wasn't spoken, the request timed out or
> > there is no GPS
> > position, in which case you may hear, "Limited position
> > data. Change
> > location and try again."
> >
> > Once you have launched Sendero GPS LookAround, a shake
> > of the iPhone will
> > cause LookAround to display the current Heading, street,
> > city, cross street
> > and nearest point of interest based on the POI category
> > you have chosen
> > under settings. It defaults to the Restaurant category.
> > Note the Variety
> > category is a combination of 8 categories containing the
> > letter E such as
> > restaurant and hotel. Searching 8 categories at once may
> > cause the app to
> > time-out more frequently.
> >
> > The main screen is laid out with output text displayed
> > toward the top of the
> > screen with 3 long buttons in the lower half of the
> > screen, one above the
> > other. There are 5 small buttons evenly spaced across
> > the bottom of the
> > screen. Don't tap too hard when activating these buttons
> > as you may trigger
> > the iPhone shake feature.
> >
> > The 3 main buttons are:
> > 1. Where Am I button:
> > The first long button is the Where Am I button, which
> > announces heading,
> > nearest address and city. You receive a vibration and
> > beep after activating
> > it.
> >
> > The LookAround software makes its best guess as to which
> > street you are on
> > and which is the cross street. Many positioning factors
> > go into whether this
> > information is correct. This may be particularly
> > problematic if you are
> > inside or among tall buildings. This is because of your
> > distance away from
> > the street and because the positioning indoors is worse
> > than it is outdoors
> > and out in the open.
> >
> > 2. Nearest Cross Street Button:
> > This is the second of the 3 long buttons. It announces
> > the nearest street
> > and cross street. Again, this refers to the nearest
> > street and not
> > necessarily the one ahead in your direction of travel.
> > If you are at an
> > intersection, it is common for GPS systems to get
> > confused as to which
> > street you are on versus which one is the cross street.
> > A vibration and beep
> > will confirm that you activated this button.
> >
> > 3. Nearest 5 Points of Interest button:
> > Whereas the Shake gives you the nearest single point of
> > interest, this POI
> > button displays up to 5 nearby points of interest in the
> > category you choose
> > under Settings. The search goes out to 2 kilometers,
> > 1.24 miles. These
> > points are based on proximity, 360 degrees around you. A
> > vibration and beep
> > will confirm that you activated this button. A swish
> > every 3 seconds will
> > indicate that a search is in progress.
> > Note: You can hear the distance to these various items
> > in feet, yards or
> > meters. The default is Yards. This can be changed under
> > the Settings menu.
> >
> > Once POIs are found, a list will be shown in a separate
> > screen with the name
> > of the POI followed by the distance and compass
> > direction to that POI. These
> > are buttons you can click on to receive more details
> > like the address and
> > phone number. Click on the phone number to call that
> > business. A Call or
> > Cancel button will then be presented. The Back button
> > will take you to the
> > POI list. If you do call the business, you will be taken
> > to the phone
> > application and will need to launch LookAround again. It
> > will of course be
> > in the task switching list.
> >
> > The 5 buttons across the bottom of the iPhone main
> > LookAround screen from
> > left to right are as follows: There is a beep after the
> > touch of each
> > button. There is no vibration.
> > 1. The Map button takes you to Google maps and a
> > push-pin is displayed
> > on the screen to indicate your position. Voice Over will
> > not announce any of
> > the map information. Press the Back Button to exit the
> > Map and return to the
> > main screen.
> > 2. The Compass button will indicate which direction the
> > iPhone is
> > facing if there is no compass interference, which may
> > come from nearby
> > electronics or magnetic forces. Once you have changed
> > direction with the
> > phone, touch the Compass button. Once you receive the
> > confirming beep, the
> > new compass direction should be spoken. If not, touch
> > the top of the screen
> > to hear the text output. If you are told there is
> > compass interference,
> > slowly move the phone in a figure eight shape while it
> > is laying flat. When
> > the interference goes away, the error will disappear
> > from the screen.
> > 3. Shake on/off toggle button. If you hear Shake On
> > button, this means
> > the Shake feature is enabled as described above. The
> > purpose of this toggle
> > is so you can turn the shake feature off when you place
> > the phone in your
> > pocket or bag without closing the LookAround
> > application. Normal walking
> > will tend to make the phone shake inadvertently and keep
> > talking unless you
> > switch off the Shake feature. Alternatively, press the
> > power button on the
> > top of the phone briefly to lock the screen temporarily.
> > You will need to
> > unlock the screen before LookAround will function again.
> > 4. The Setting button will open another screen with a
> > list of options
> > such as Shake on and off, Country, Metric/Imperial
> > distance units and Help.
> > The item which is enabled will say "selected."
> > The POI Category Button, which has a flag icon, takes
> > you to a list of
> > categories. There is a Picker list. Voice Over users can
> > swipe up and down
> > to change the category. Press the Back Button to return
> > to the main screen
> > and your new POI category will be used when you shake
> > the phone or press the
> > 5 POI button. This category list is in alphabetical
> > order. 
> >
> > Note: When you touch any of the 3 primary buttons on the
> > main screen, the
> > focus is moved to the text portion of the screen and you
> > will hear the text
> > spoken. If you want to activate one of those buttons
> > again, you need to move
> > focus back to the button before activating it.
> >
> > Secondary Sendero LookAround Screens:
> >
> > Settings Screen:
> >
> > There are 4 items on the Settings screen, one above the
> > other and a Back
> > button in the top left of the screen, which takes you
> > out of Settings and
> > Back to the Main screen. These settings will be saved
> > until you install a
> > new version of LookAround.
> >
> > The first item is Shake Gesture. To its right is its
> > on/off status. You will
> > hear Selected for the active status.
> > If you select the Off status, the Shake button will be
> > removed from the main
> > screen. This is different than the function of the Shake
> > button on the main
> > screen, which turns it off temporarily.
> >
> > The second button allows you to select the map region
> > and you will hear
> > which one is selected to its right. The current options
> > are North America
> > for the US and Canada and the other is Europe, which
> > contains most but not
> > all maps for the region. We hope to add other countries
> > in future versions.
> >
> > The third button is Distance unit, Feet, Meters or
> > Yards. The active unit
> > will say selected. The default is yards.
> >
> > The fourth button will take you to the Help screen.
> > This screen has hints and tips for using the iPhone.
> > There is a link at the
> > bottom to the Sendero iPhone page, which has more
> > details. The Back button
> > is in the top left corner. The disclaimer button is in
> > the bottom right
> > corner.
> >
> > POI Category Screen
> >
> > This screen starts with a Back button in the upper left
> > corner followed by
> > the title text, Select POI Category.
> >
> > Below that is the currently selected item. Touch this
> > item and then move up
> > and down through the list of categories. Whichever
> > category is highlighted
> > is the one that will be used once you return to the main
> > screen. There is no
> > Save or Done button. Just press Back to return to the
> > main screen.
> >
> > Known Issues:
> >
> > There may be locations where you hear a POI label spoken
> > but no data
> > reported. Please email us with the city and state or
> > lat/lon to
> > GPS@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx if you come across this.
> >
> > There may also be situations where the POIs are far away
> > or for some other
> > reason the swishing goes for a long time. It should time
> > out after 2
> > minutes.
> >
> >
> > Operational items to be aware of:
> >
> > Map data for most countries is from Tele Atlas with POI
> > content from Info
> > USA. The data resides on a server so if phone
> > connectivity is lost, the data
> > cannot be accessed. There is no data resident on the
> > phone.
> >
> > The iPhone performs its positioning based on
> > triangulation of the nearest
> > cell towers as well as with GPS. This means that if you
> > are indoors, you can
> > still receive rough location information even without
> > GPS reception. It
> > depends how far away these cell towers are as to the
> > accuracy you will
> > receive.
> >
> > When you are outside, the built-in GPS receiver and
> > antenna can improve
> > accuracy to the typical 30 to 50 feet range. For maximum
> > accuracy, give the
> > phone some time to acquire a GPS fix outside and away
> > from tall buildings if
> > possible. See the Sendero "GPS Accuracy" document for a
> > comprehensive
> > explanation.
> >
> > The iPhone compass direction within Sendero LookAround
> > helps to indicate
> > which way you are oriented but it does not synch up with
> > the direction of
> > the street it says you are on. It may be that it says
> > you are heading West
> > and announces a street that only goes North and South.
> > There is currently no
> > way to corroborate this information. Magnetic fields in
> > the environment such
> > as electronics, elevators and large masses of metal can
> > influence the
> > compass.
> >
> > It almost goes without saying that map and POI data can
> > be out of date as
> > soon as published. We encourage users not to take it
> > personally if their
> > street or favorite business is not in the database.
> > Amazingly, most are.
> >
> > When you press Home and leave the Sendero LookAround
> > app, it remains running
> > in the background but the GPS position is not active.
> > When you open it
> > again, the last function you performed will display its
> > information on the
> > screen.
> >
> > The Sendero LookAround app works with the iPhone 4 and
> > 3GS but does not work
> > with the iPod Touch or the iPhone 3G.
> >
> > If you encounter a problem not listed here, please let
> > us know as well as
> > feature requests. Send to iPhone @SenderoGroup.com or
> > join our Email
> > Lists (http://senderogroup.com/social_media/email.htm)
> >
> > Copyright 2010 Sendero Group, LLC.
> >
> > Michael May, CEO Sendero Group
> > Developers of accessible GPS and distributors of
> > technology for the blind
> >
> > Voice, 530-757-6800
> > MikeMay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > http://www.senderogroup.com
> > http://www.AccessibleGPS.com
> > http://www.CrashingThrough.com
> >
> > 429 F Street, Suite 4
> > Davis, CA 95616
> >
> >
> > Michael May, CEO Sendero Group
> > Developers of accessible GPS and distributors of
> > technology for the blind
> >
> > Voice, 530-757-6800
> > MikeMay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > http://www.senderogroup.com
> > http://www.AccessibleGPS.com
> > http://www.CrashingThrough.com
> >
> > 429 F Street, Suite 4
> > Davis, CA 95616
> >
> >
> >
> >
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