Tony, Please keep me posted. I understand from those using BrailleNotes, that this is an excellent way to write messages and read texts. I have a BN which makes me all the more keen to give it a go some day. -- Carol carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Be friends with me on Facebook (Not using Twitter these days ...) ---- Original Message ---- From: tbrowngriffin@xxxxxxx To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 10:58 PM Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Preview of Sendero GPS LookAround 1.1 > Hi Carol > > > I have been sitting on the funding for a little while, > sight and sound were beta testing some newer model > handsets, but these have turned out not to be accessible, > so I figured I would do some research, so have spoken to > quite a number of people that are singing it's praises, > mostly blind people, so I have got it on 28 days > approval, it might arrive on friday I hope but if not > next week. > > > Will let you know how I get on! Quite looking forward to > it!! > > > Tony > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Carol Pearson <carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 22:39 > Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Preview of Sendero GPS > LookAround 1.1 > > > I'll be very interested to know how you get on Tony. > Well done for taking the plunge! > > -- > Carol > carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Be friends with me on Facebook > (Not using Twitter these days ...) > > > > ---- Original Message ---- > From: tbrowngriffin@xxxxxxx > To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 10:00 PM > Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Preview of Sendero GPS > LookAround 1.1 > > > HI > > > > > > I have decided to take the plunge and get one, do not > > like the N82 which is currently what sight and sound are > > offering, have done research talked to apple etc and > > have ordered my i phone! Hope I ma not disapointed!! > > > > > > Tony > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Carol Pearson <carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Sent: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 21:38 > > Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Preview of Sendero GPS > > LookAround 1.1 > > > > > > Get an N86 if you can find one, either from Nokia or > > Sight & Sound. > > > > If you want to go the IPhone route, I suggest you have a > > good look and play and also listen to some of the > > recordings out there of people using them to see whether > > you think it's for you. > > > > I haven't taken the plunge yet but may do one day. ... > > > > -- > > Carol > > carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > On Twitter: http://twitter.com/songbird49a > > > > ---- Original Message ---- > > From: GianniP46 > > To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 10:32 PM > > Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Preview of Sendero GPS > > LookAround 1.1 > > > > > Hey Guys, > > > I know this is off topic, but can someone who is using > > > the IPhone email me off list?. I am contemplating > > > getting one, but I am nervous about the touch screen > > > interface. Is texting and dialing really that > > > efficient with out buttons? Or am I better off with > > > a nokia n82 or E 73? > > > My email address is > > > giannip46@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Thanks! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Michael May > > > To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 7:40 PM > > > Subject: [gps-talkusers] Preview of Sendero GPS > > > LookAround 1.1 > > > > > > > > > We sent this updated version to Apple today. I hope it > > > is posted within 3 or > > > 4 days. Not sure if the weekend impacts these things. > > > > > > As you will soon see, we fixed the bugs having to do > > > with the saving of > > > settings and the country selection. > > > We added the ability to select a POI category and to > > > dial the POI phone > > > number. > > > > > > We will have another round of small improvements after > > > this version gets the > > > real world test. > > > Mike > > > > > > Sendero GPS LookAround, Version 1.1 Documentation > > > > > > Sendero GPS LookAround for the iPhone is available in > > > the app store. It > > > works with the iPhone 3GS and higher. It will not > > > function with the iPod. No > > > telephone support is available from Sendero Group. > > > There is no turn-by-turn > > > navigation information in Sendero LookAround for the > > > iPhone. There are 5 > > > applications powered by Sendero GPS on other > > > platforms, which have > > > comprehensive navigation features. For information on > > > these products, visit > > > http://www.AccessibleGPS.com > > > > > > To use Sendero GPS LookAround: > > > > > > Touch the Sendero GPS icon to launch the application. > > > You will be presented > > > with a disclaimer. Touch the OK Button to accept the > > > disclaimer. Also, touch > > > the OK Button when asked if it is ok to use your > > > current location. If there > > > is compass interference, you may find that touching > > > the OK button does not > > > work at first. Read the screen to see if there is an > > > error message. Wave the > > > phone in a figure eight motion to clear the compass > > > message if necessary. > > > > > > To receive the LookAround information, shake the > > > iPhone until you feel a > > > vibration and hear a swishing sound. It may take from > > > 5 to 30 seconds > > > depending on the point of interest data location. The > > > swish will give you a > > > progress indication every 3 seconds. Once you move > > > positions and want to > > > "Look around" again, shake the iPhone to receive new > > > information. Remember > > > when you press Home and leave the application and then > > > launch it again, the > > > previous information may still be on the screen. Shake > > > again to get new > > > information. > > > > > > If you don't hear anything several seconds after > > > shaking the phone, touch > > > the top of the screen to hear what is being displayed. > > > Perhaps the > > > information wasn't spoken, the request timed out or > > > there is no GPS > > > position, in which case you may hear, "Limited > > > position data. Change > > > location and try again." > > > > > > Once you have launched Sendero GPS LookAround, a shake > > > of the iPhone will > > > cause LookAround to display the current Heading, > > > street, city, cross street > > > and nearest point of interest based on the POI > > > category you have chosen > > > under settings. It defaults to the Restaurant > > > category. Note the Variety > > > category is a combination of 8 categories containing > > > the letter E such as > > > restaurant and hotel. Searching 8 categories at once > > > may cause the app to > > > time-out more frequently. > > > > > > The main screen is laid out with output text displayed > > > toward the top of the > > > screen with 3 long buttons in the lower half of the > > > screen, one above the > > > other. There are 5 small buttons evenly spaced across > > > the bottom of the > > > screen. Don't tap too hard when activating these > > > buttons as you may trigger > > > the iPhone shake feature. > > > > > > The 3 main buttons are: > > > 1. Where Am I button: > > > The first long button is the Where Am I button, which > > > announces heading, > > > nearest address and city. You receive a vibration and > > > beep after activating > > > it. > > > > > > The LookAround software makes its best guess as to > > > which street you are on > > > and which is the cross street. Many positioning > > > factors go into whether this > > > information is correct. This may be particularly > > > problematic if you are > > > inside or among tall buildings. This is because of > > > your distance away from > > > the street and because the positioning indoors is > > > worse than it is outdoors > > > and out in the open. > > > > > > 2. Nearest Cross Street Button: > > > This is the second of the 3 long buttons. It announces > > > the nearest street > > > and cross street. Again, this refers to the nearest > > > street and not > > > necessarily the one ahead in your direction of travel. > > > If you are at an > > > intersection, it is common for GPS systems to get > > > confused as to which > > > street you are on versus which one is the cross > > > street. A vibration and beep > > > will confirm that you activated this button. > > > > > > 3. Nearest 5 Points of Interest button: > > > Whereas the Shake gives you the nearest single point > > > of interest, this POI > > > button displays up to 5 nearby points of interest in > > > the category you choose > > > under Settings. The search goes out to 2 kilometers, > > > 1.24 miles. These > > > points are based on proximity, 360 degrees around > > > you. A vibration and beep > > > will confirm that you activated this button. A swish > > > every 3 seconds will > > > indicate that a search is in progress. > > > Note: You can hear the distance to these various items > > > in feet, yards or > > > meters. The default is Yards. This can be changed > > > under the Settings menu. > > > > > > Once POIs are found, a list will be shown in a > > > separate screen with the name > > > of the POI followed by the distance and compass > > > direction to that POI. These > > > are buttons you can click on to receive more details > > > like the address and > > > phone number. Click on the phone number to call that > > > business. A Call or > > > Cancel button will then be presented. The Back button > > > will take you to the > > > POI list. If you do call the business, you will be > > > taken to the phone > > > application and will need to launch LookAround again. > > > It will of course be > > > in the task switching list. > > > > > > The 5 buttons across the bottom of the iPhone main > > > LookAround screen from > > > left to right are as follows: There is a beep after > > > the touch of each > > > button. There is no vibration. > > > 1. The Map button takes you to Google maps and a > > > push-pin is displayed > > > on the screen to indicate your position. Voice Over > > > will not announce any of > > > the map information. Press the Back Button to exit the > > > Map and return to the > > > main screen. > > > 2. The Compass button will indicate which direction > > > the iPhone is > > > facing if there is no compass interference, which may > > > come from nearby > > > electronics or magnetic forces. Once you have changed > > > direction with the > > > phone, touch the Compass button. Once you receive the > > > confirming beep, the > > > new compass direction should be spoken. If not, touch > > > the top of the screen > > > to hear the text output. If you are told there is > > > compass interference, > > > slowly move the phone in a figure eight shape while it > > > is laying flat. When > > > the interference goes away, the error will disappear > > > from the screen. > > > 3. Shake on/off toggle button. If you hear Shake On > > > button, this means > > > the Shake feature is enabled as described above. The > > > purpose of this toggle > > > is so you can turn the shake feature off when you > > > place the phone in your > > > pocket or bag without closing the LookAround > > > application. Normal walking > > > will tend to make the phone shake inadvertently and > > > keep talking unless you > > > switch off the Shake feature. Alternatively, press the > > > power button on the > > > top of the phone briefly to lock the screen > > > temporarily. You will need to > > > unlock the screen before LookAround will function > > > again. > > > 4. The Setting button will open another screen with a > > > list of options > > > such as Shake on and off, Country, Metric/Imperial > > > distance units and Help. > > > The item which is enabled will say "selected." > > > The POI Category Button, which has a flag icon, takes > > > you to a list of > > > categories. There is a Picker list. Voice Over users > > > can swipe up and down > > > to change the category. Press the Back Button to > > > return to the main screen > > > and your new POI category will be used when you shake > > > the phone or press the > > > 5 POI button. This category list is in alphabetical > > > order. > > > > > > Note: When you touch any of the 3 primary buttons on > > > the main screen, the > > > focus is moved to the text portion of the screen and > > > you will hear the text > > > spoken. If you want to activate one of those buttons > > > again, you need to move > > > focus back to the button before activating it. > > > > > > Secondary Sendero LookAround Screens: > > > > > > Settings Screen: > > > > > > There are 4 items on the Settings screen, one above > > > the other and a Back > > > button in the top left of the screen, which takes you > > > out of Settings and > > > Back to the Main screen. These settings will be saved > > > until you install a > > > new version of LookAround. > > > > > > The first item is Shake Gesture. To its right is its > > > on/off status. You will > > > hear Selected for the active status. > > > If you select the Off status, the Shake button will be > > > removed from the main > > > screen. This is different than the function of the > > > Shake button on the main > > > screen, which turns it off temporarily. > > > > > > The second button allows you to select the map region > > > and you will hear > > > which one is selected to its right. The current > > > options are North America > > > for the US and Canada and the other is Europe, which > > > contains most but not > > > all maps for the region. We hope to add other > > > countries in future versions. > > > > > > The third button is Distance unit, Feet, Meters or > > > Yards. The active unit > > > will say selected. The default is yards. > > > > > > The fourth button will take you to the Help screen. > > > This screen has hints and tips for using the iPhone. > > > There is a link at the > > > bottom to the Sendero iPhone page, which has more > > > details. The Back button > > > is in the top left corner. The disclaimer button is in > > > the bottom right > > > corner. > > > > > > POI Category Screen > > > > > > This screen starts with a Back button in the upper > > > left corner followed by > > > the title text, Select POI Category. > > > > > > Below that is the currently selected item. Touch this > > > item and then move up > > > and down through the list of categories. Whichever > > > category is highlighted > > > is the one that will be used once you return to the > > > main screen. There is no > > > Save or Done button. Just press Back to return to the > > > main screen. > > > > > > Known Issues: > > > > > > There may be locations where you hear a POI label > > > spoken but no data > > > reported. Please email us with the city and state or > > > lat/lon to > > > GPS@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx if you come across this. > > > > > > There may also be situations where the POIs are far > > > away or for some other > > > reason the swishing goes for a long time. It should > > > time out after 2 > > > minutes. > > > > > > > > > Operational items to be aware of: > > > > > > Map data for most countries is from Tele Atlas with > > > POI content from Info > > > USA. The data resides on a server so if phone > > > connectivity is lost, the data > > > cannot be accessed. There is no data resident on the > > > phone. > > > > > > The iPhone performs its positioning based on > > > triangulation of the nearest > > > cell towers as well as with GPS. This means that if > > > you are indoors, you can > > > still receive rough location information even without > > > GPS reception. It > > > depends how far away these cell towers are as to the > > > accuracy you will > > > receive. > > > > > > When you are outside, the built-in GPS receiver and > > > antenna can improve > > > accuracy to the typical 30 to 50 feet range. For > > > maximum accuracy, give the > > > phone some time to acquire a GPS fix outside and away > > > from tall buildings if > > > possible. See the Sendero "GPS Accuracy" document for > > > a comprehensive > > > explanation. > > > > > > The iPhone compass direction within Sendero LookAround > > > helps to indicate > > > which way you are oriented but it does not synch up > > > with the direction of > > > the street it says you are on. It may be that it says > > > you are heading West > > > and announces a street that only goes North and South. > > > There is currently no > > > way to corroborate this information. Magnetic fields > > > in the environment such > > > as electronics, elevators and large masses of metal > > > can influence the > > > compass. > > > > > > It almost goes without saying that map and POI data > > > can be out of date as > > > soon as published. We encourage users not to take it > > > personally if their > > > street or favorite business is not in the database. > > > Amazingly, most are. > > > > > > When you press Home and leave the Sendero LookAround > > > app, it remains running > > > in the background but the GPS position is not active. > > > When you open it > > > again, the last function you performed will display > > > its information on the > > > screen. > > > > > > The Sendero LookAround app works with the iPhone 4 and > > > 3GS but does not work > > > with the iPod Touch or the iPhone 3G. > > > > > > If you encounter a problem not listed here, please let > > > us know as well as > > > feature requests. 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