[geocentrism] Re: Saul of Tarsus
- From: "Niemann, Nicholas K." <NNiemann@xxxxxxxx>
- To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 11:34:27 -0500
Dear All,
Take a look at the Haydock Bible I mentioned the other day, if you'd
like to understand that what Paul says does not evidence a hatred by
Paul of the poor.
Steven,
Have you read what Catholic thinkers throughout history have said on
this passage, or do you just like to spout off with your unwarranted,
misunderstandings and accusations of St. Paul.
Regards,
Nick.
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From: Steven Jones [mailto:stavro_jones@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 8:48 AM
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Saul of Tarsus
Dear All,
Saul also had a hatred for the poor. Please read the following
abominable quote from 2 Thessalonians.
(2 Th 3:6-12 KJV) "Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord
Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that
walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us.
For yourselves know how ye ought to follow us: for we behaved not
ourselves disorderly among you;
Neither did we eat any man's bread for nought; but wrought with labour
and travail night and day, that we might not be chargeable to any of
you:
Not because we have not power, but to make ourselves an ensample unto
you to follow us.
For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would
not work, neither should he eat.
For we hear that there are some which walk among you disorderly, working
not at all, but are busybodies.
Now them that are such we command and exhort by our Lord Jesus Christ,
that with quietness they work, and eat their own bread."
Notice that Saul said: "that if any would not work, neither should he
eat". Yet Yeshuwa' said: (Mat 25:37-40 KJV) "Then shall the righteous
answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungered, and fed thee? or
thirsty, and gave thee drink?
When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed
thee?
Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?
And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you,
Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren,
ye have done it unto me."
Saul also said: "Neither did we eat any man's bread for nought; but
wrought with labour and travail night and day, that we might not be
chargeable to any of you:
Not because we have not power, but to make ourselves an ensample unto
you to follow us." Yet Yeshuwa' said: (John 6:27 KJV) "Labour not for
the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto
everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath
God the Father sealed."
Saul is teaching differently to that of Yeshuwa' so has to be an
ensample unto you to follow us (him) and not the Messiah.
Regards,
Steven Jones.
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