number of active participants -- off the top of my head -- would not exceed 10,...... thus the maximum capital returns are trivial when compared to the wider -- world -- market. I would have thought that it would be very cheap advertising to answer all questions directly. Paul D And Neville said, correctly, or we can pull together a bit more and show some enthusiasm. Neville. And I say: I agree with both statements, except that it would be foolish to support anything, of which one was not entirely convinced was true. There ae many elements of GWW that I did not agree with. Assumptions and presumptions, common to the method of errors of MS literature. So many, that long ago I gave up the work of providing a list of criticisms. Longer ago I followed an internet debate wherein Robert Sungenis defended a challenge he made against all comers. As far as I was concerned, he failed in that endeavour with one agnostic participant. (I don't know whether he got the money) He did not convince me, and even though I agreed with the geocentric position, his evidence was insufficient to convince. Indeed no-one, not even my self , can present sufficient evidence to make Geocentrism a certainty. We have been at it here for long enough and are still in the dark. It is not good to support financially the promotion of any work that has sufficient faulty reasoning , that it is more likely to do harm than good, simply for the reason that I agree with or was sympathetic to the overall objective. I would quickly give up a carton of beer to give Robert a feed, but he never indicated that he was hungry. Nevilles case was different. It was not a book. It was as far as I could tell a PC programme.. Something I have never worked with, and quite candidly is outside my abilities to understand evaluate or ever use. Like the heavy math stuff, I avoid any discussion on it. Neville, I am as enthusiastic as they come. Lets get on with the work.. We need now to have proof by experiment the Aspden effect before getting into the wheres and whys of it. Philip. ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Deema To: Geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 2:48 AM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Aspden effect and Aether. To whom it may concern While Philip M has presumed autonomously upon my concurrence, From philip madsen Wed Jul 4 08:38:56 2007, he has presumed, to very close limits, correctly. Regarding Neville J's comments (GWW) From Neville Jones Wed Jul 4 14:36:04 2007 I would like to add this. Yes it's difficult to swim against the current but that is as it should be. If you wish to overturn the accumulated body of knowledge and understanding in any field, then you must be prepared for a long hard struggle. The alternative is to have the entrenched jury accept lightly your revised views, albiet with copious supporting documentation and reasoning -- along with the views (no doubt also accompanied by copious supporting evidence) equally with all the other dissenters. This would be disastrous and is no doubt the reason for things being as they are. The former course demonstrates negative feedback (stability) the latter, positive feedback (need it be stated -- instability). Regarding remuneration for one's efforts. Essentially market forces are going to rule. In this arena, the number of active participants -- off the top of my head -- would not exceed 10, thus the maximum capital returns are trivial when compared to the wider -- world -- market. I would have thought that it would be very cheap advertising to answer all questions directly. Paul D ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo!7 Mail has just got even bigger and better with unlimited storage on all webmail accounts. Find out more. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.14/885 - Release Date: 3/07/2007 10:02 AM