Re: [foxboro] Upgrading Foxboro AW from P91, (Dell 2800), to P91, (Dell 2900), 2003 Server

  • From: "Boulay, Russ" <russ.boulay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 21:24:02 -0500

Tom,

In the case stated below, you will have to feel the pain.
Symantec like Acronis or other similar packages has a "Restore Anywhere"
feature. However, "Restore Anywhere" works great on baseline Operating
Systems...like XP or Server 2003 barebones with applications on top.
However, dissimilar hardware requires the pertinent drivers.
That includes motherboards..video, ethernet etc.
New offerings of hardware are not on Microsoft plug and play list.
So after loading an image from an older box onto a newer box next
subsequent bootup will start prompting for specific driver CD's ..etc
that may have shipped with the machine. That's with just OS on new
equipment.

The complexity of I/A and the need to bind hardware to the I/A
application causes issues. 
The 2800 used PCI ethernet to communicate to Mesh.
The 2900 uses PCIe (express) to communicate to Mesh.

If you restore the 2800 backup image onto a 2900, the drivers for PCIe
won't exist.
If you load the drivers new, the ethernet cfg. gets initialized..thus
unbinding I/A from the network interface. There is no way to re-bind I/A
to ethernet interfaces except during day0 install as that is when the
virtual mini-port gets created and dual binded to the two ethernet fiber
cards.

So your best approach:
Dell Restore New box to manufacturing image.
Day0 commit to create ethernet bindings and establish I/A in registry.
Then must load any applications like AIM, IACC  etc. so they can get
registry entries and licensing.
Then restore files from the BESR image that support the applications,
like Aim database files, IACC database, etc.. can be loaded from BESR
backup.
CSA ..just requires a CSA save before upgrade,...tehn a csa_merge using
the files from csa_save..


-----Original Message-----
From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of tjvandew@xxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 01:57 AM
To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [foxboro] Upgrading Foxboro AW from P91, (Dell 2800), to P91,
(Dell 2900), 2003 Server

All wise and knowing list,
    Tomorrow morning, Monday Feb 9th, we are going to attempt an upgrade

from an old P91, (Dell 2800), to P91, (Dell 2900), 2003 Server.  We have

a lot of applications running on this box and I would like to minimize 
the effort and retain all of the data for:

CSA - Compound Summary Access for the Site
AIM * Historian for the Site
IACC Server hosting 6 databases for the Site
Boot Host for Training CP's
System Monitor

    Although you might think that the Symantec Back-up and Restore 
Utility that Foxboro endorses and re-sells would make this an easy task,

that is not the case.  In fact, it looks like Symantec is pretty useless

in this task because the new box has a different BIOS and Symantec will 
only restore a backup to an identical machine.  If I am wrong about this

and someone knows a secret that I don't, please speak up.  There is a 
lot I don't know about this.

    Is there any Foxboro document that describes the best way to upgrade

a box like this? 

I think the "pat" answer is to do a Day 0 on the new box, load all of 
the individual apps, back up all of the different individual databases 
for each app from the old box, and then copy or restore them to the 
appropriate directory on the new box.  This is a very painstaking and 
time consuming process but I think it is what we have to do unless 
someone knows of a better method.

If we did a Day 0 and reloaded the apps and then backed up the entire D:

drive partition from the old box and restored it all to the new D: 
partition would we catch all of the Foxboro specific applications and 
databases?

I would like to hear from anyone who has gone through this exercise.

Mahalo, (Thanks), for any helpful hints that you may have.

Cheers,
Tom VandeWater
Control Conversions, Inc.
Kapolei, HI

 
 
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