> it's not sensible for a file manager to > also manage a desktop Other FMs handle desktop icons, including the Big Ones from GNOME and KDE, so your opinion is exceptional. When it comes to icons, no other app makes sense. The "desktop" is just an idiom for file management. It's just inotify-monitoring $XDG_DESKTOP_DIR and drawing icons on X11 root window, recording user positions in a store. That and XDnD about does it. A lot of end users really like and organize on desktops. I try to help. iDesk is terribly old and stale, unmaintained now. Rox is actually quite good in many respects but forces you into its "universe of Rox" when you want good MIME handling. > If you've been following Toolkit debate is ghastly boring. I know them all. They're all broken. SpaceFM was also talking about "the future" toolkit decision, but its owner disappeared, tired I guess. No more development. I don't care what toolkit emelfm2 wants so long as emelfm2 remains stable. Use anything, but keep core logic decoupled from toolkit APIs if you can. Thank you for the feedback, Tom. If icons don't appeal then go for the root/admin usage configs! That'd be more useful to me. -- http://www.fastmail.fm - The professional email service -- Users can unsubscribe from the list by sending email to emelfm2-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field or by logging into the web interface.