Re: [cpsig] Re: Roof Mounted Mars Lights on CP FP7,s and CP FP9's

  • From: "K V Railway" <kvrailway@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <cpsig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 12:19:12 -0800

Good question, Jeff. My understanding is that those roof-mounted lights were never intended to function as a head-light.
I think Vic's interpretation of the rules is referring to the style of rotating headlights some American roads used as well as
the portable MARS headlights used on CPR Budd Cars out west. I stand to be corrected on this, but I don't think those
lights on the Canadian fell under the rules Vic refers to. By all accounts that I ever heard from people who should have
known, those lights on top of the units used on the Canadian were never intended to function as any sort of a head light.
They were simply what the CPR public-relations lady said they were ... a publicity gimmick. That's exactly what the old-timers
told me - without exception.

Joe Smuin

-----Original Message----- From: Jeff Pinchbeck
Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 7:17 PM
To: cpsig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [cpsig] Re: Roof Mounted Mars Lights on CP FP7,s and CP FP9's


17. On engines so equipped, [an] oscillating white headlight must
be displayed (turned on) to the front by day and by night. It must
be extinguished when the headlight is dimmed or extinguished. [The]
oscillating white headlight should be used in a stationary position
as a substitute headlight in case of failure of the headlight.
(Bracketed and parenthetical words added.)

The lights were on the roof and pointed into the sky at a 45 degree angle.
Could they be considered a headlight or a lantern?

The engine was equipped with proper forward facing headlights and there is
set rules on when they could be used.  I think it could be easily argued to
the regulators that they're not headlights and get an exception.

Or am I missing something?

Jeff









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