[corkbiomakerspace] Re: Logo thoughts?

  • From: "Cathal (phone)" <cathalgarvey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: corkbiomakerspace@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2014 12:43:36 +0100

If it were Z DNA the helix would be more elongated!

On 2 July 2014 12:07:42 GMT+01:00, Stephen Geary <sgeary@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>Looking good :)   one question for any true gaeilgeoirí reading, the
>diacritic over the "o" in forma; is that correct in modern irish? or is
>it
>just a regular "o"?   getting ambiguous answers from online
>dictionaries.
>
>p.s. not a fan of Z DNA then Cathal?  ;)
>
>Steve
>
>
>
>On 2 July 2014 11:56, jean o neill <jean.oneill@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> In fairness, Niamh has a point, there will be enough nit pickers in
>the
>> general populace that possibly our grasp of capitalisation should not
>be
>> one thing they're allowed at :D
>>
>>
>> On 2 July 2014 11:49, Cathal (phone) <cathalgarvey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>wrote:
>>
>>> Double stranded what? The DNA is double stranded, do you mean the
>tree
>>> trunk?
>>>
>>> I like lowercase, btw, but my wife (proxy for mildly sceptical
>general
>>> audience) likes uppercase first letter.
>>>
>>> Just remembered to check the DNA strand for correct handedness..
>>>
>>> On 2 July 2014 11:29:42 GMT+01:00, Niall O'Cuilleanain <
>>> niall.ocuilleanain@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Big fan of this logo!
>>>> Glad we went with a green/yellow mix.
>>>> Our aim should be international recognition for ireland as a synbio
>hub, with cork/munster leading the pack.
>>>> Would double strand be better? More recognizable to a general
>audience?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> From: corkbiomakerspace-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[corkbio.makerspace-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent: 02 July 2014 11:18
>>>> To: corkbiomakerspace@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [corkbiomakerspace] Re: Logo thoughts?
>>>>
>>>> So, this is the same logo as above, but in lower case also. Which
>do you think?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 1 July 2014 13:47, Cathal (phone)
><cathalgarvey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cathalgarvey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It is awfully nice as is.. :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 1 July 2014 13:45:55 GMT+01:00, "Áine Cahill"
><aine.cahill@xxxxxxxx<mailto:aine.cahill@xxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think a mix of plain letters and the double strand F is something
>we woul
>>>>  d have
>>>> to see to see if it would work... Some people could just see a
>squiggle and órma! It could be just overcomplicating a really nice
>clean design.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 1 July 2014 01:35, jean o neill
><jean.oneill@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:jean.oneill@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What think ye of this? I've had options of text changing and a bit
>of tweaking, (see how the white's not so good on it :/ ) but it's
>vectorable, and orientable so can be rendered less rectangular more
>circular for stickers etc if needs be? I was thinking , based on Áine's
>marvelous idea, maybe the 'f' could start the double strand?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 30 June 2014 11:10, jean o neill
><jean.oneill@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:jean.oneill@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> no, the primary colours will be grand. AFAIK (and I'll check
>tomorrow to be 100%) it comes down to blocks essentially, so if say,
>we're doing headed paper, the logo in primary colors is less of a block
>of colour area wise than the same colours on a dark background on a
>white page. White paper is cheaper than dark papers for leaflets etc
>too it seems (constant thing of complaint in the gallery I'm in, we
>>>>  print
>>>> everything on black...), but if you are going dark background, then
>it's easier to have it all dark and text/logos all the one other
>colour. But with all that said, I'm by no means an expert, I'll talk to
>them that knows tomorrow and tell ye all for definite :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 30 June 2014 10:29, Áine Cahill
><aine.cahill@xxxxxxxx<mailto:aine.cahill@xxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Good point Jean, that's why I was a little concerned about the
>"vibe" of the logo.... It could be a little too aggressive for what we
>are going for! Maybe if we kept the untwisting into an "F" shape but
>softened the colour scheme and ditched the stitches?? I'm not sure I
>understand how the colour affects price though, is it how strong the
>colour is or the actual shade? As in if we went with bold primary
>colours would that be the same issue as a black background?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cathal I do think it would look better if it was actually a double
>helix untwisting but my Paint was stuck on ladder mode
>>>>  ! :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 30 June 2014 10:21, jean o neill
><jean.oneill@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:jean.oneill@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think they're fabulous :) The two thinkgs I'd comment on, and
>really it's just me being nit picky, is cost if we have a dark
>background, while it will only amount to a few cent extra per piece,
>that may addd up over larger amounts, and with regard to referring back
>to the frankenscience, would it be the type of thing  that Joe Public
>could see/take as a joke? I'm all for reclaiming it and making it our
>own, I think that it's hugely important that it is, but I'm not sure
>that the brand logo is the first place to do that, just cause someone
>somewhere would take it up wrong and that might cost funding. But with
>all that said, I'm incredibley hyper aware and sometimes overly paranod
>about these things, and my sense of humour just covers dry and droll,
>so I most likely am over thinking it all
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 30 June 2014 10:09, Áine Cahill
>>>> <aine.cahill@xxxxxxxx<mailto:aine.cahill@xxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>> Hi guys, this is something I was thinking of last night...
>Unfortunately my Paint skills couldn't really capture what I was
>imagining but I think ye can get the gist of what I mean!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So my idea for the logo would include:
>>>> - cork colours (although as a Kerry girl I have no great attachment
>to them!)
>>>> - A double helix unwinding and replicating in a fork to form a
>rough "F" shape
>>>> - A dark green segment of inserted ssDNA attached with staples/old
>school stitches as a play on the Frankenscience aspect of things. It
>could be a way of taking something that is used as a fearmongering
>tactic and making it our own...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> - It could be kept mostly simple and so would translate well to
>different sizes.
>>>>
>>>> What do ye think?
>>>>
>>>> Áine
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 30 June 2014 09:40, Cathal Garvey
><cathalgarvey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cathalgarvey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wro
>>>>  te:
>>>> Very true re:white. Red is the more important colour, so it'll be
>grand. :)
>>>>
>>>> Other options for corkiness include having a ship passing between
>two
>>>> "towers" of DNA rising up from primordial soup (totally
>approachable to
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> average bion00b, totally) or an image of tripe with "FORMA"
>emblazoned
>>>> on it.
>>>>
>>>> On 30/06/14 08:50, jean o neill wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  In seriousness though, red is fine, but white will be difficult
>from the
>>>>>  pov of printing etc, unless we're going for a dark background,
>which could
>>>>>  be costlier again. I'll ask for definite, but otherwise, what
>about an
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  alternative contrasting colour?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  On 29 June 2014 23:06, Jean O Neill
><jean.oneill@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:jean.oneill@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  Nah, blue and blue, cause we can only spell one colour good :D
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Sent from my iPod
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  On 29 Jun 2014, at 22:33, Stephen Geary
><sgeary@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sgeary@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  On 29 June 2014 22:15, Cathal (phone)
><cathalgarvey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cathalgarvey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Yellow for sulphur, brown for muck? I forget! :P
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  On 29 June 2014 22:11:42 GMT+01:00, Jean O Neill
><jean.oneill@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:jean.oneill@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Ah! *plots for good daycent aul Dublin colours * :D
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Sent from my iPod
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  On 29 Jun 2014, at 20:00, "Cat
>>>>>>>>  hal
>>>>>>>> (phone)"
><cathalgarvey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cathalgarvey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Cork colours! Not essential, of course..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  On 29 June 2014 19:27:42 GMT+01:00, Jean O Neill
><jean.oneill@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:jean.oneill@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Shall be on Tuesday, so keep em coming. Why a red n white
>scheme in particular? Or am I picking up something wrong?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Jean
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Sent from my iPod
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  On 29 Jun 2014, at 19:16, Cathal Garvey
><cathalgarvey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cathalgarvey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   So, Jen; you get in touch with your designer peeps? :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   On 28/06/14 20:03, Cathal Garvey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   Oh
>>>>>>>>>>   I like
>>>>>>>>>> the DNA-tree idea!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>   Made me think of fusing it with the "tree of life", as
>enclosed.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>   Naturally the final version would have to have red and
>white, rather
>>>>>>>>>>>   than red and yellow, if a white strand could be done with
>sufficient
>>>>>>>>>>>   contrast.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>   Circles are nice, they
>>>>>>>>>>>    make
>>>>>>>>>>>  good badges and stickers. Also, we want the<
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>   br />
>>>>>>>>>>>  name in the icon as Steve did, I'm just playing with
>imagery here..
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>   On 28/06/14 14:29, jean o neill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>   So, just while everyone's fermenting with ideas and
>bubbling with
>>>>>>>>>>>>   creativity, I'm meeting with some friends during the week
>who have dabbled
>>>>>>>>>>>>   in design and I was going to approach them fo
>>>>>>>>>>>>  r logo
>>>>>>>>>>>> ideas. Any thoughts on
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>   what would be good? Something graphic? Minimalist? A dna
>strand unwinding
>>>>>>>>>>>>   into a tree and a seahorse? (That may be just me...) Any
>and all thoughts
>>>>>>>>>>>>   please.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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