[corkbiomakerspace] Re: Logo thoughts?

  • From: Stephen Geary <sgeary@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: corkbiomakerspace <corkbiomakerspace@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 12:49:38 +0100

... not to mention the handedness :-P


On 2 July 2014 12:43, Cathal (phone) <cathalgarvey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> If it were Z DNA the helix would be more elongated!
>
>
> On 2 July 2014 12:07:42 GMT+01:00, Stephen Geary <sgeary@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> Looking good :)   one question for any true gaeilgeoirí reading, the
>> diacritic over the "o" in forma; is that correct in modern irish? or is it
>> just a regular "o"?   getting ambiguous answers from online dictionaries.
>>
>> p.s. not a fan of Z DNA then Cathal?  ;)
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2 July 2014 11:56, jean o neill <jean.oneill@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> In fairness, Niamh has a point, there will be enough nit pickers in the
>>> general populace that possibly our grasp of capitalisation should not be
>>> one thing they're allowed at :D
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2 July 2014 11:49, Cathal (phone) <cathalgarvey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Double stranded what? The DNA is double stranded, do you mean the tree
>>>> trunk?
>>>>
>>>> I like lowercase, btw, but my wife (proxy for mildly sceptical general
>>>> audience) likes uppercase first letter.
>>>>
>>>> Just remembered to check the DNA strand for correct handedness..
>>>>
>>>> On 2 July 2014 11:29:42 GMT+01:00, Niall O'Cuilleanain <
>>>> niall.ocuilleanain@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Big fan of this logo!
>>>>> Glad we went with a green/yellow mix.
>>>>> Our aim should be international recognition for ireland as a synbio hub, 
>>>>> with cork/munster leading the pack.
>>>>> Would double strand be better? More recognizable to a general audience?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> From: corkbiomakerspace-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>>>>> [corkbio.makerspace-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent: 02 July 2014 11:18
>>>>> To: corkbiomakerspace@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: [corkbiomakerspace] Re: Logo thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>> So, this is the same logo as above, but in lower case also. Which do you 
>>>>> think?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1 July 2014 13:47, Cathal (phone) 
>>>>> <cathalgarvey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cathalgarvey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It is awfully nice as is.. :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1 July 2014 13:45:55 GMT+01:00, "Áine Cahill" 
>>>>> <aine.cahill@xxxxxxxx<mailto:aine.cahill@xxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I think a mix of plain letters and the double strand F is something we 
>>>>> woul
>>>>>  d have
>>>>> to see to see if it would work... Some people could just see a squiggle 
>>>>> and órma! It could be just overcomplicating a really nice clean design.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1 July 2014 01:35, jean o neill 
>>>>> <jean.oneill@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:jean.oneill@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What think ye of this? I've had options of text changing and a bit of 
>>>>> tweaking, (see how the white's not so good on it :/ ) but it's 
>>>>> vectorable, and orientable so can be rendered less rectangular more 
>>>>> circular for stickers etc if needs be? I was thinking , based on Áine's 
>>>>> marvelous idea, maybe the 'f' could start the double strand?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t34.0-12/10446380_10152229376508310_699285707_n.jpg?oh=c1af1b25cbd49316c7d8f9f3ee8b79d1&oe=53B42D68&__gda__=1404302620_e920e66759498462c47e77e9d17e69f7]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 30 June 2014 11:10, jean o neill 
>>>>> <jean.oneill@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:jean.oneill@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> no, the primary colours will be grand. AFAIK (and I'll check tomorrow to 
>>>>> be 100%) it comes down to blocks essentially, so if say, we're doing 
>>>>> headed paper, the logo in primary colors is less of a block of colour 
>>>>> area wise than the same colours on a dark background on a white page. 
>>>>> White paper is cheaper than dark papers for leaflets etc too it seems 
>>>>> (constant thing of complaint in the gallery I'm in, we
>>>>>  print
>>>>> everything on black...), but if you are going dark background, then it's 
>>>>> easier to have it all dark and text/logos all the one other colour. But 
>>>>> with all that said, I'm by no means an expert, I'll talk to them that 
>>>>> knows tomorrow and tell ye all for definite :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 30 June 2014 10:29, Áine Cahill 
>>>>> <aine.cahill@xxxxxxxx<mailto:aine.cahill@xxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Good point Jean, that's why I was a little concerned about the "vibe" of 
>>>>> the logo.... It could be a little too aggressive for what we are going 
>>>>> for! Maybe if we kept the untwisting into an "F" shape but softened the 
>>>>> colour scheme and ditched the stitches?? I'm not sure I understand how 
>>>>> the colour affects price though, is it how strong the colour is or the 
>>>>> actual shade? As in if we went with bold primary colours would that be 
>>>>> the same issue as a black background?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Cathal I do think it would look better if it was actually a double helix 
>>>>> untwisting but my Paint was stuck on ladder mode
>>>>>  ! :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 30 June 2014 10:21, jean o neill 
>>>>> <jean.oneill@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:jean.oneill@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I think they're fabulous :) The two thinkgs I'd comment on, and really 
>>>>> it's just me being nit picky, is cost if we have a dark background, while 
>>>>> it will only amount to a few cent extra per piece, that may addd up over 
>>>>> larger amounts, and with regard to referring back to the frankenscience, 
>>>>> would it be the type of thing  that Joe Public could see/take as a joke? 
>>>>> I'm all for reclaiming it and making it our own, I think that it's hugely 
>>>>> important that it is, but I'm not sure that the brand logo is the first 
>>>>> place to do that, just cause someone somewhere would take it up wrong and 
>>>>> that might cost funding. But with all that said, I'm incredibley hyper 
>>>>> aware and sometimes overly paranod about these things, and my sense of 
>>>>> humour just covers dry and droll, so I most likely am over thinking it all
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 30 June 2014 10:09, Áine Cahill
>>>>> <aine.cahill@xxxxxxxx<mailto:aine.cahill@xxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>> Hi guys, this is something I was thinking of last night... Unfortunately 
>>>>> my Paint skills couldn't really capture what I was imagining but I think 
>>>>> ye can get the gist of what I mean!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So my idea for the logo would include:
>>>>> - cork colours (although as a Kerry girl I have no great attachment to 
>>>>> them!)
>>>>> - A double helix unwinding and replicating in a fork to form a rough "F" 
>>>>> shape
>>>>> - A dark green segment of inserted ssDNA attached with staples/old school 
>>>>> stitches as a play on the Frankenscience aspect of things. It could be a 
>>>>> way of taking something that is used as a fearmongering tactic and making 
>>>>> it our own...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> - It could be kept mostly simple and so would translate well to different 
>>>>> sizes.
>>>>>
>>>>> What do ye think?
>>>>>
>>>>> Áine
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 30 June 2014 09:40, Cathal Garvey 
>>>>> <cathalgarvey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cathalgarvey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wro
>>>>>  te:
>>>>> Very true re:white. Red is the more important colour, so it'll be grand. 
>>>>> :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Other options for corkiness include having a ship passing between two
>>>>> "towers" of DNA rising up from primordial soup (totally approachable to
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> average bion00b, totally) or an image of tripe with "FORMA" emblazoned
>>>>> on it.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 30/06/14 08:50, jean o neill wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  In seriousness though, red is fine, but white will be difficult from the
>>>>>>  pov of printing etc, unless we're going for a dark background, which 
>>>>>> could
>>>>>>  be costlier again. I'll ask for definite, but otherwise, what about an
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  alternative contrasting colour?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  On 29 June 2014 23:06, Jean O Neill 
>>>>>> <jean.oneill@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:jean.oneill@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Nah, blue and blue, cause we can only spell one colour good :D
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Sent from my iPod
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  On 29 Jun 2014, at 22:33, Stephen Geary 
>>>>>>> <sgeary@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sgeary@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  On 29 June 2014 22:15, Cathal (phone) 
>>>>>>> <cathalgarvey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cathalgarvey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Yellow for sulphur, brown for muck? I forget! :P
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  On 29 June 2014 22:11:42 GMT+01:00, Jean O Neill 
>>>>>>>> <jean.oneill@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:jean.oneill@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Ah! *plots for good daycent aul Dublin colours * :D
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Sent from my iPod
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  On 29 Jun 2014, at 20:00, "Cat
>>>>>>>>>  hal
>>>>>>>>> (phone)" 
>>>>>>>>> <cathalgarvey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cathalgarvey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Cork colours! Not essential, of course..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  On 29 June 2014 19:27:42 GMT+01:00, Jean O Neill 
>>>>>>>>> <jean.oneill@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:jean.oneill@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  Shall be on Tuesday, so keep em coming. Why a red n white scheme in 
>>>>>>>>>> particular? Or am I picking up something wrong?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  Jean
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  Sent from my iPod
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  On 29 Jun 2014, at 19:16, Cathal Garvey 
>>>>>>>>>> <cathalgarvey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cathalgarvey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> 
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   So, Jen; you get in touch with your designer peeps? :)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>   On 28/06/14 20:03, Cathal Garvey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>   Oh
>>>>>>>>>>>   I like
>>>>>>>>>>> the DNA-tree idea!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>   Made me think of fusing it with the "tree of life", as enclosed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>   Naturally the final version would have to have red and white, 
>>>>>>>>>>>> rather
>>>>>>>>>>>>   than red and yellow, if a white strand could be done with 
>>>>>>>>>>>> sufficient
>>>>>>>>>>>>   contrast.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>   Circles are nice, they
>>>>>>>>>>>>    make
>>>>>>>>>>>>  good badges and stickers. Also, we want the<
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>   br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>  name in the icon as Steve did, I'm just playing with imagery 
>>>>>>>>>>>> here..
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>   On 28/06/14 14:29, jean o neill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   So, just while everyone's fermenting with ideas and bubbling 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   creativity, I'm meeting with some friends during the week who 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have dabbled
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   in design and I was going to approach them fo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  r logo
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ideas. Any thoughts on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   what would be good? Something graphic? Minimalist? A dna strand 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> unwinding
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   into a tree and a seahorse? (That may be just me...) Any and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> all thoughts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   please.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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