[bookport] Re: Getting a Case For BookPort
- From: "Barry Levine" <barry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 08:44:14 -0600
Grant, it's not the cost of the leather... it's the Human time necessary to
select the leather, purchase the leather, design the case, manufacture the
case, market the case, sell the case, package the case, and ship the case.
After all is said and done, I don't believe there's a ton of profit being
made on these BookPort cases.
--Barry
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From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Grant Hardy
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2005 1:42 AM
To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bookport] Re: Getting a Case For BookPort
Ok, here's the point. Imagine if I were selling you a CD. Your choice was
to either have it given to you in your hands, no case, completely
unprotected, or to have it snapped into an enormous plastic housing that
would darn well protect the CD, but heck, when you wanted to use it, well
good luck! Same with this: you either have the choice of the keys 100%
exposed or have them rendered completely useless through the thick flap.
And as for how much it's worth, that is a personal opinion I suppose, but I
would be interested to find out how much a combination of x times y inches
of leather costs, and I think it would be pretty clear to be under forty
bucks. Add on a shipping fee and wow!!
I guess what it comes down to is this. Do you think Office is expensive?
Some will say yes, since all it really is is one individual "key" and a CD
that unlocks the features. Others will say no way, since a lot of thought
went into that. Before you ridicule me further, everyone, just think about
this and make your own educated opinion based on the facts. I didn't want
to say this much but I'm truly amazed at how simple criticism sparked a slue
of angry complaints relating to my judgment and claims. I guess I'm not a
millionaire.
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Learned <mailto:learnedtechnology@xxxxxxx>
To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 6:52 PM
Subject: [bookport] Re: Getting a Case For BookPort
Hi Grant,
I am not sure where you're geting your information from, but you really need
to get your facts straight.
I currently have in hand, a new in the package BP case, actually two of
them. Nowhere do they mention a price of $5 or anything else for that
matter. I know how much time and labor went into the making of this product,
since I worked closely with Brian and Al to get the case from an idea that
I had, to the finished product.
The material used in the EPI case is made of high quality leather and the
design is well thought out. The case also includes a handstrap and a
shoulderstrap.
First you were concerned that the keys were unprotected, then you came back
and said that the flap got in your way. If you think about all of the cases
that are designed for blind specific products, Trekker/Meistro, PAC Mate and
the Braille Note family, all have flaps covering the keys. Actually, so do
the mainstream PDA cases. Since I brought up mainstream cases, take a look
at the average price of a nice leather PDA case. I found a number of them
for $39.99. For a decent cellphone case you will pay about $25.
Sizewise, I don't see where it is tiny as you mentioned. It is the same size
as my Trekker case and bigger than my cell case.
I'm so glad that Executive Products even took this idea into consideration,
since the market isn't as big as many mainstream products. Most companies
would have looked at the big dollar before starting such a project and
probably would have turned it down.
EPI still took the task of mmaking the case, not knowing the amount of BP's
that were in circulation. I am grateful they did, and now my irreplaceable
Book Port is well protected!
They also have excellent customer service and as long as you have one of
their products, they will take care of you.
Grant, the $5 value that was written on the box sounds like they were doing
a favor for you.
Scott
----- Original Message -----
From: "Grant Hardy" <granthardy@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 2:49 PM
Subject: [bookport] Re: Getting a Case For BookPort
I think it depends on the material used to make the case, as well as the
labour involved. I believe a sighted person read on the package that the BP
case was around a $5 value. That's quite an extra chunk out of your pockets
for the "profit". Like I said, I imagine Executive Products intends their
merchandise to go to businesses, thus it doesn't really matter how much
stuff costs--you can just write it off as business expenses. However, for
individuals, wow--what a chunk out of your pocket for a tiny leather case.
Anyway, just my opinion once again...and maybe it's only because I'm a poor
student, smile.
Grant
----- Original Message -----
From: Sarah Cranston
To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 1:40 PM
Subject: [bookport] Re: Getting a Case For BookPort
I'm just curious, Grant, what would you consider to be an ideal price for
a case designed specifically to hold the Book Port?
-----Original Message-----
From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Grant Hardy
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 3:37 PM
To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bookport] Re: Getting a Case For BookPort
Now come on, Walt, that's a bit harsh. My only point was that they do
charge a rather excessive amount for the case--me being a poor student is
hit hardest by this. As they're a company designed mainly for
business-related goods, I suppose that their prices are as high as you would
expect for a company that distributes products to businesses. But guys,
like I already said, I'm not telling *anybody* not to buy the case. I
personally think that using a generic case, or making one, would be cheaper
and more practical. But the mark of a great product is one that receives
both positive AND negative ratings.
Grant
----- Original Message -----
From: Walt Smith
To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 8:02 AM
Subject: [bookport] Re: Getting a Case For BookPort
Executive Products is not a large company. They produce their cases in
lots
of perhaps five or ten, not in the dozens or hundreds. They've been the
only
vendor willing to produce cases for many of our blind technology
products.
They're great people to do business with. Sorry you can't see the
reality of
the situation and think that you should be treated as though you were
dealing with a huge multinational corporation with millions of
customers.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Grant Hardy" <granthardy@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 6:39 PM
Subject: [bookport] Re: Getting a Case For BookPort
Well, to each his own, and I won't comment on this thread anymore. I
should
mention though that the "value" liste on the package for the case is
*way*
below the enormous price that you're paying for a small leather case.
On a happier note, merry Christmas to everyone. And I'm sorry if you
don't
like my negative view here but I think every product, whether popular or
unpopular, desserves both positive and negative ratings. That way you
can
make an informed decision about buying it based on user comments. I
myself
was extremely impressed upon reading reviews and when I first got the
case,
but I have begun to see the negative side of it, that's for sure.
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Cullen
To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 3:11 PM
Subject: [bookport] Getting a Case For BookPort
Hi Everyone,
I got my case yesterday. Its wonderful Its everything I could of hoped
for.
I had a little trouble at first trying to get the bookport into the
case
but
once I did it it was easy. The case is well padded and Doesn't add
much
wheight to the bookport I would Recomend anyone getting one who is
interested in protecting there bookports from damage.
If you have questions or problems please feel free to email me at
SCullen7@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sincerely,
Steve Cullen
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